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LasVegasMichael 11-14-2007 03:20 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
Keep in mind that Ballys/Paris/Harrahs have a $5 rake plus $1 jackpot. Everywhere else in Vegas is $4 max +$1 JP (in rooms that have JPs, which is most).

Treasure Island, MGM Grand, Luxor, Excalibur, and Monte Carlo would be my recommendation (basically non Harrahs properties).

PwB 11-14-2007 03:24 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
I just got back from my most recent trip (by just got back, I mean about 12 hours ago.)

I didn't play on the strip this time, because I was feeling anti-strip for some reason, so I played at Tuscany (on Flamingo.) I also decided to play LHE this trip, rather than 1-2/1-3 NL.

So here's the thing I suggest, because it worked pretty darned well for me. I decided to brush up on low stakes LHE (been a couple of years since I played it in a casino) so i brought Small Stakes Hold 'em with me and re-read the first half of it on the plane.

After rake, tipping what would be considered by many to be exorbitantly (5%ish of pot) and tipping waitresses from my stack, I still walked away with what averaged to be $34.50 per hour from $3-6 LHE, just by applying what I'd read in the book (and not being perfect about it, either - I definitely missed a lot of bets by being sloppy.)

Last time I played LHE was $2 - 4 at Excalibur, but that was when I first started playing and sucked more than I do now.

Just remember to relax and have fun. It's easy enough to put low-stakes poker into perspective if you just rememember that you can easily lose an entire poker buy-in from a 45-second run of bad cards at the blackjack table.

fishyak 11-14-2007 03:55 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
IMO, soft LLHE in LV = Bally's, MGM & Excal. It is entirely possible to beat the rake. Relax, play smart, have fun. $100 is an all day sucker @ 2/4.

PhilHelmet 11-14-2007 04:38 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
Binions

jeffnc 11-14-2007 06:23 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
Yeah, I know NL can be intimidating. But honestly, as long as you're not at a table with a super LAG, just limp in with some hands when several people are in, and just wait to hit some big flops or draws and you'll make money. It really is a pretty easy game if you're just patient and wait for hands. Be aware that the preflop raise amounts can be shocking, even with weak hands. You'll see AT or KJ raised to $15 all the time. Also, never slowplay, especially like AA or KK preflop. You will make money, with little variance, surprisingly.

Photoc 11-14-2007 06:32 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
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IMO, soft LLHE in LV = anywhere with an open seat It is entirely possible to beat the rake. Relax, play smart, have fun. $100 is an all day sucker @ 2/4.

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FYP and you guys put way too much thought into who has the "best" low limit games.

abby318 11-14-2007 09:49 PM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
stayed at ip last august. dont play there. they only have like 5 tables which dont even have automatic shufflers. play at mgm grand or the flamingo

pig4bill 11-15-2007 02:09 AM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
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IMO, soft LLHE in LV = anywhere with an open seat It is entirely possible to beat the rake. Relax, play smart, have fun. $100 is an all day sucker @ 2/4.

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FYP and you guys put way too much thought into who has the "best" low limit games.

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That's because an extra dollar rake and jackpot drop have a much bigger effect on a 2/4 game than any other. If ever there should be a discussion on the "best" games in town, it should be for 2/4.

RitaNg123 11-15-2007 03:05 AM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
I have played at almost every hotel on the strip, and my suggestion would be MGM Grand, hands down. It has such a fun and upbeat atmosphere, so it attracts a lot of idiots! I had the most fun at this casino, and did pretty well.

One thing that a friend of mine said, is to always play the lowest limit offered at the casino. I always have the idea that any low limit game (from 2/4 to 5/10) is full of horrible players and that it doesn't matter which game you end up in, but I DID notice that at MGM, the 2/4 game had significantly worse players than the 4/8 game there, so I think what he said had some validity to it.

Hope you enjoy your trip!

Spiffysean 11-15-2007 05:14 AM

Re: New to Vegas - Micro limit player
 
The only issues I have with playing 1/2NL is running bad with bad players. For instance, I am a strong enough player to crush a 1/2 game with very little effort. Really all you need to do is play 1-2-3 poker.

The problem is when your AK gets beat by A5, or when your Kings get run down by pocket 3's... I can put my money in where I am no less than a 75% favorite, and still end up bad for the night.

The problem is one guy sucking out on you can crush your bankroll, and I understand that concern. If I am going to play 1/2, I need to have 400-500 dollars, even if I am buying in for 100. You have to assume that someone is going to get out on you. It's the variance argument - If you are a good player, and keep playing "right" poker, you will end up winner in the end... Provided you have the bankroll to do that.

Honestly, if you want practice at low-limit NL Holdem, go online and play at a .5/.10 table, where you can't get hurt too bad. If you are showing a profit there, you can expect the same at a 1/2 table.

Remember, it's one long session!

Hope that helps!


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