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8outpoker 11-14-2007 04:11 PM

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so correct me if im wrong but the final word is that we get a few table games but the same [censored] limits?

Atomic 11-14-2007 04:14 PM

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yep - along with the gaming age going from 18 to 21 at the Seminole casinos and a possible reduction in card room hours.

There is a provision for 6 high stakes no limit tournaments each year if 70% of the revenue goes to charity.

soulvamp 11-14-2007 04:58 PM

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I'm going to FL to play poker in a week. If they take away 24-hours rooms before I get there I'll be so pissed.

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I doubt anything will happen until after the lawyers get this teat sucked dry in four or five years.

Atomic 11-14-2007 05:34 PM

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Michael Mayo of the Ft Lauderdale Sun Sentinel has a Q&A about the compact and its possible hurdles.

Mayo Column

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The main hurdle will be legal fights that could take months, if not years. Dan Adkins, the executive in charge of Mardi Gras Casino in Hallandale Beach, vowed “to run to the courthouse to file suit” as soon as a compact that allowed table games was announced. And then there’s the matter of the Legislature, whose leaders argue that they must ratify any compact before it takes effect.

lwrunner103 11-14-2007 08:14 PM

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Wow at age limit DECREASE. JESUS! I'm like one of the only <21 year old regulars at Hollywood. They've been discussing changes for 3 months and the best they could come up with is to get rid of the minority of players that are 18-21. SIGH. Expert plan.

Poshua 11-14-2007 09:01 PM

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It doesn't look to me like they're shrinking the poker hours. The Mayo column says, in part:

"According to the October compact draft, the Seminoles said their poker rooms would adhere to state rules when it came to 'hours of operation, wagers and pot sizes.' If this provision stayed in, it would tick off plenty of insomniac poker players."

Mayo was discussing the draft compact, not the final version. Indeed, it looks like the provision about hours was struck in the negotiations; the final compact instead states, in Part V, Subpart L:

"The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that limit wagers and pot sizes."

Note it says they will comply with "provisions" of the law, not the law in whole; and it only cites provisions relating to wagers and pot sizes. They're not agreeing to comply with limits on hours and, importantly, it's not clear to me they're agreeing to limits on buy-in either (just wagers and pot sizes).

Is my read right that they are freed from the buy-in limit, or are the limits on buy-in covered by (1) the statement that the tribe is and will continue to comply with some provisions of the law, as that is one they currently comply with, or (2) the notion that a limit on buy-in is an implicit limit on bet or pot size?

bigslickmark 11-14-2007 09:12 PM

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It doesn't look to me like they're shrinking the poker hours. The Mayo column says, in part:

"According to the October compact draft, the Seminoles said their poker rooms would adhere to state rules when it came to 'hours of operation, wagers and pot sizes.' If this provision stayed in, it would tick off plenty of insomniac poker players."

Mayo was discussing the draft compact, not the final version. Indeed, it looks like the provision about hours was struck in the negotiations; the final compact instead states, in Part V, Subpart L:

"The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that limit wagers and pot sizes."

Note it says they will comply with "provisions" of the law, not the law in whole; and it only cites provisions relating to wagers and pot sizes. They're not agreeing to comply with limits on hours and, importantly, it's not clear to me they're agreeing to limits on buy-in either (just wagers and pot sizes).

Is my read right that they are freed from the buy-in limit, or are the limits on buy-in covered by (1) the statement that the tribe is and will continue to comply with some provisions of the law, as that is one they currently comply with, or (2) the notion that a limit on buy-in is an implicit limit on bet or pot size?

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I think this looks good regarding 24 hour poker. They took out the language regarding hours from a previous draft. My guess is that the $100 buy in will stay because the provision to limit pot sizes implies they will limit the buy in. Either way, the Indians don't care because they will make much more money off the blackjack than they will on high stakes poker.

TEKEE 11-15-2007 10:36 AM

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im glad im over 21.

BTMegaCash 11-15-2007 01:59 PM

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this sucks florida was one of only a few spots with no limit for us under 21 crowd...guess im down to Canada or i heard there is some NL in a couple californa casinos that allow under 21's in...and maybe a few in michigan


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