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This is a bluff with the A of clubs from someone who plays too much PLO.

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no it's not, because nobody does that.

I mean, it could be a donk with any of a number of dumb hands, but it's never a bluff by the naked Ac by someone playing too much PLO.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

dono if you are just generalizing but read was given in the OP as good aggro player fwiw

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

Weird hand. I prolly fold, but why on earth would anyone play like that.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

I fold unhappily even though I'm pretty sure its a clear fold

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

Bakes, has the villian a good knowledge of your game? Have you guys tangled before to any great degree? Is there any chance that he checks this river to you because he fully expects a bet from you a high percentage of the time?

Because if you are beat he has done something VERY unorthodox in this hand. I'm confused and we have a flush on a non paired board so like the tourney donk that I am - I would call here.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

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This is a bluff with the A of clubs from someone who plays too much PLO.

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no it's not, because nobody does that.

I mean, it could be a donk with any of a number of dumb hands, but it's never a bluff by the naked Ac by someone playing too much PLO.

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I've seen this play made three times with the naked A, twice unsucessfully, once successfully, in 10K buy-in events -- 2006 USPC at the Taj (unknown player, successful), 2006 Mandalay Bay WPT (Steve Zoine, unsuccessful), 2007 Borgata WPT (unknown player, unsuccessful). I've never seen anyone play the nut flush like this, ever, nor can I come up with a reason why anyone ever would, other than being able to see Bakes' cards.

If it's not the nuts, which I refuse to believe it is, then he must feel confident he's not getting called, ergo he has the A of clubs.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

Lloyd, if he expects hero to bet the river, why do you assume he is checking to him so he can Bluff CRAI?

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I fold unhappily even though I'm pretty sure its a clear fold

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I fold happily because I'm pretty sure its a clear fold

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Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

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wat do u mean "as played"

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i mean that neither of you has show any strength up till the river, he didn't 2 barrell his flushdraw when a good 2 barrell card hits, and he checks his high flush again on the river hoping you bet. its like he played this hand with the intention of only stacking a lower flush. On the other hand, thats a huge [censored] shove and bluffing here is weird. [censored] i dunno I probobly do fold

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FWIW I think not c/ring a flush on this river is really terrible. I would fold and turn isn't that great a two barreling card.