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tcorbin16 08-17-2007 05:12 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
op states 43/15

RiverFenix 08-17-2007 07:27 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I think this hand is pretty interesting. Like some have said it'd be a shame to lose any significant chunk of your stack so you no longer cover him by reopening and being behind, I'd hate to 3b then make a crying call if he shoves and I dont think I could seeing as it puts you in roughly the same spot as calling an allin and then reloading stack wise.
I dont get the minraise logic. If he's going to call an extra 80bb w/ 7x or smaller flushes he's certainly going to call ~140bb more or so. I think he'd be less likely to shove over a larger 3b too w/ the flushes we do beat. Seems like too much risk to reopen betting for just ~80bb.

As played I'm in the call camp. I also bet more on flop/turn.

catcher193 08-17-2007 07:30 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
shove, then type in "you got the 7 or just the 2?"

Nielsio 08-17-2007 07:34 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I probably end up calling because of the size of his raise.

And it is only the 5th nuts..

Hattifnatt 08-17-2007 07:36 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
you that say minraise, are you folding to a push?

I think you have to raise here, but I wouldnt do it if I am not ready to call a push.

I dont mind a push either, I dont think he is laying down a lower flush, and who knows, he might even call with a 7.

AAismyfriend 08-17-2007 07:41 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
Villian is not ever ever ever ever pushing a flush that we beat, unless he is completely batshit insane or completely retarded. I still like making it 2kish, and yes I'm folding to a shove.

Hattifnatt 08-17-2007 07:43 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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Villian is not ever ever ever ever pushing a flush that we beat, unless he is completely batshit insane or completely retarded

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I dont think we can eliminate the chance that he is just batshit insane or completely retarded with the description provided.

luegofuego 08-17-2007 07:46 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
2.5 seems fine. he has to be pretty fking dumb to call a shove with worse and he has to be pretty fking dumb to shove with worse.

TheWorstPlayer 08-17-2007 07:50 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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2.5 seems fine. he has to be pretty fking dumb to call a shove with worse and he has to be pretty fking dumb to shove with worse.

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agreed. but i'd still call a shove.

VPIP100 08-17-2007 07:52 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
What if we have the Q high or the J high flush?


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