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Nielsio 09-27-2007 11:47 PM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
Bet the flop in hand one against tight-passive fish. Not really a fan of the reraise; this guy plays by the book (the hellmuth book) and has no idea postflop. He is never folding TT.

Hand two your pot/stack manipulation seems way off. You bet too much on the turn and he's either c/f or c/c no matter what you bet. If you think he has A-high then betting more will only look suspicious. How do you feel about a turn-push? It's even more suspicious but calling off you entire stack with no pair is hard. If not I like $250 better.

jlocdog 09-28-2007 12:06 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
I look at hand 2 like this...

He has J high always beat.
He will fold his A high hands almost always here given lines taken.
He has A high SO often.

aislephive 09-28-2007 12:18 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
Haven't read anything but the OP, but anyways, hand 1 looks beyond horrible regardless of results IMO vs a nit with a laggy image like yours. I don't like hand two either but it's not as bad as hand one. I'm sure that hand one worked and hand two didn't or something like that because that's not what we would expect.

cowpig 09-28-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
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Haven't read anything but the OP, but anyways, hand 1 looks beyond horrible regardless of results IMO vs a nit with a laggy image like yours. I don't like hand two either but it's not as bad as hand one. I'm sure that hand one worked and hand two didn't or something like that because that's not what we would expect.

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i completely disagree

nits convince themselves to call the turn light vs LAGs, and then on the river they go "WTF UGH HE ALWAYS HAS THE NUTS" and fold

a 52/50 lagtard has the same thought process but calls

aislephive 09-28-2007 12:37 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
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i completely disagree

nits convince themselves to call the turn light vs LAGs, and then on the river they go "WTF UGH HE ALWAYS HAS THE NUTS" and fold


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In my experience you will never get a nit off JJ+ here getting 2.5-1.

BobboFitos 09-28-2007 12:46 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
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#2 worked, without a doubt.

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so #1 failed?

BobboFitos 09-28-2007 12:48 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
if i was called in hand 1, did he have 3 pair or a boat?
if i was called in hand 2, do i look like a fool vs an ace high hero call?

futuredoc85 09-28-2007 12:50 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
3 pr

yes, but i think he folded it

ArturiusX 09-28-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
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#2 worked, without a doubt.

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so #1 failed?

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spexel 09-28-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Fun with JTs, which bluff worked?
 
bleh hand 1. people seem to call me with JJ there..


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