Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

I didn't say I'd fold -- I'd just think it's a sick spot for vbet bluffs and it LOOKS (uninentionally maybe) megastrong. I'd generally raise the turn because many people at 25nl are bad players but insofar as I'd THINK about folding AA on a nonridic board, this is as close as it would be.

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

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what you should have down was repop him on the turn to force him to make a decision, not you.

[/ QUOTE ] just want to point out that this is pretty terrible. You want him to fold worse so you can have the initiative when you have position? Raising the turn loses a ton of value.

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

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what you should have down was repop him on the turn to force him to make a decision, not you.

[/ QUOTE ] just want to point out that this is pretty terrible. You want him to fold worse so you can have the initiative when you have position? Raising the turn loses a ton of value.

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I interpret villain as calling on the flop with overs against a perceived c-bet, then catching one of his 'outs'. I think raising the turn is the best way to play for stacks., which I wantto do. Disagree?

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Disagree?

[/ QUOTE ]yeah. I guess if you want to minraise the turn here then that's better. But the pot is going to be $15 on the turn and stacks are going to be $17. Not many people check the river after betting the turn and their opponent showing "weakness". Minraise may infact be best here but if he's bluffing it's terrible.

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

So, Charger, are you saying that raising the turn is going to cause him to fold so we should not raise?

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

yeah

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

reads/stats on villain?

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

Alright...lots of good discussion, so I think I'll give the results.

I was 18-tabling at the time, and really went into the tank on this one.

I rarely run into this kind of aggression at this level, so I usually take it pretty seriously.

The only thing I could come up with was 66. I talked myself into folding, which is definitely against my instinct here.

He was pissed off, and showed jacks...seemed convinced I would call (and was convinced I had aces).

Re: NL25 - Time to Fold Aces?
 

Raise turn and the rest is gonna be easy you will see.

If he really has a set there is no way not to go broke in that spot.