Re: Stars $3-$6 - That wasn\'t supposed to happen
 

CO has you crushed the majority of the time.

Re: Stars $3-$6 - That wasn\'t supposed to happen
 

I think you pretty much have to call given your odds and the fact we can safely say we're sometimes ahead here.

Re: Stars $3-$6 - That wasn\'t supposed to happen
 

Everyone who is saying this is a call obviously didn't read that I potted flop, was checkraised huge, had someone shove over the checkraise and then I overshoved.

Re: Stars $3-$6 - That wasn\'t supposed to happen
 

My guess is that some1 had 89 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and the other had liek K7 diamonds and won with a pair of 7's.

Re: Stars $3-$6 - That wasn\'t supposed to happen
 

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Everyone who is saying this is a call obviously didn't read that I potted flop, was checkraised huge, had someone shove over the checkraise and then I overshoved.

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yea, but OP has aces, and aces are the nuts.

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, and aces are the nuts.

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Results: CO had KK (lol) and I bricked out with 9d7d letting him scoop.

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Results: CO had KK (lol) and I bricked out with 9d7d letting him scoop.

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As you may have inferred from primo's post i folded as i couldn't really think of any range where i was ahead of both. Turn and river are blanks and i somehow take aces v kings, neither of us improve and yet he wins - what a player.

Primo, did it cross your mind to just smooth call the flop raise and reraise? On the face of it JAMming or folding appears to be your only options, but with the cutoff all in you almost certainly need to improve to win and the chances are that if you do improve you would be better facing two opponents rather than one. I suppose the main benefit of getting me to fold would be if you were up against a better flush draw, but the cutoff didn't really strike me as the type to call off his stack with just a draw (albeit on the evidence of this hand, i wasn't exactly reading this guy very well).

If you had called it would have confused the hell out of me and i am not exactly sure what i would have done. I would probably push a blank turn, but even then (i think) you would have had the odds to call, whereas if you had improved i would pay you off as obviously i can't fold after the flop action. Part of this is based on the fact that we know you were up against two overpairs rather than say a set and better flush draw, but i think it is interesting that an option that never crossed my mind initially may have been best. Anyone else like a call in primo's spot or is that just being results orientated?

Lockjaw