Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

Just curious about where this was - I didn't think there were very many B&M establishments where there was any cap headsup.

Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

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so i guess the turn raise turns out to be -EV

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The turn raise is absolutely +EV. But in this one particular hand it was bad.

Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

how is that going to be absolutely +EV?
when villan 3 bet you on the turn, you have to put him on atleast 2 pair and knowing that you are drawing to win this pot.

Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

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how is that going to be absolutely +EV?
when villan 3 bet you on the turn, you have to put him on atleast 2 pair and knowing that you are drawing to win this pot.

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He hadn't 3bet our turn raise when we made it.

The best, or most +EV, play is not always going to be the correct play based on our opponent's holding. But since we can't know what he has with 100% certainty, we just go with the play that has the largest long-term expectancy. In this case, raising the turn. And it's interesting to note that, even in this case when he'd flopped two pair, we still had 20 outs on the river, making us only a slight underdog (and the raise only slightly -EV in this instance).

Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

The turn raise is +EV against the range thus far when we raised.
The turn cap is -EV against the range he now holds.

If we knew that villain would 3-town EVERYTIME we raised, then the raise would be -EV because of the latter range.

Re: KQ suited in the hijack
 

just call.. it sounds like he is gonna fire out at the river regaurdless anyways so you will get your chance to raise if you improve.