Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

I agree. When the Aces pair, they are treated as the highest card(s) and you don't have the option of them being low cards.

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

Keep in mind that you can tell the best possible hand a player has. For example, a player has two hole cards and QJ987 showing. You know for sure that the bet hand he can have is 9 high. Thus, if you have 8 high you know you have him beat and he has to outdraw you with the final hole card. And even then, the best hand he can draw to 87xxx so if you have 86xxx, he cannot beat you.

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

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I agree. When the Aces pair, they are treated as the highest card(s) and you don't have the option of them being low cards.

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Only on Absolute poker. In the rest of the civilized (and uncivilized) world, the lowest pair in razz is AA.

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

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I agree. When the Aces pair, they are treated as the highest card(s) and you don't have the option of them being low cards.

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Only on Absolute poker. In the rest of the civilized (and uncivilized) world, the lowest pair in razz is AA.

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qft -- on pokerstars, aces are always low, even when paired.

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

Pretty extreme example but it works

The razz notations for the two hands are AAKQ5 vs 22KQ5.
Each hand has a king and queen as the non-playing cards.
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3973538
pokenum -r ad ac ks kc qs qc 5h - 2d 2c kh kd qh qd 5d
Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 1 enumerated outcome
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Qs Ac Kc Qc Ad 5h 1 100.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 1.000
2c Kd Qd 5d 2d Kh Qh 0 0.00 1 100.00 0 0.00 0.000

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

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Keep in mind that you can tell the best possible hand a player has. For example, a player has tw three o hole cards and QJ98 showing. You know for sure that the bet hand he can have is 9 high. Thus, if you have 8 high you know you have him beat and he has to outdraw you with the final hole card. And even then, the best hand he can draw to 87xxx so if you have 86xxx, he cannot beat you.

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FYP. He can only have 4 cards showing. Otherwise, the message is accurate.

Re: Some basic RAZZ questions
 

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Keep in mind that you can tell the best possible hand a player has. For example, a player has tw three o hole cards and QJ98 showing. You know for sure that the bet hand he can have is 9 high. Thus, if you have 8 high you know you have him beat and he has to outdraw you with the final hole card. And even then, the best hand he can draw to 87xxx so if you have 86xxx, he cannot beat you.

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FYP. He can only have 4 cards showing. Otherwise, the message is accurate.

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close...

if he has QJ98 showing, the best hand he can hit is 9832A;
he has to use 2 showing cards.

so, if you have a made 97xxx, you cannot be beat.