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Hensa 02-14-2007 04:04 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
Why do you include hands like Qh2h and 8h2h ?
and is it a format that includs Qh3h etc ? If yes, then I don't know how to do it ...

BalugaWhale 02-14-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
call=good
you needing to ask=bad

Fisher32 02-14-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
You're still a rookie at cash NL. Why would you ever call an AI on a such a weak draw. You'd be better off pushing the action VS calling it for one.

BB definatley has a flush. Alot of folks just call the flop and hope for a safe turn to move AI. Most folks wont call an AI on a 4 card flush draw.

Let me ask you something. If you had 1500 cash sitting at a live 5-10 game, and that money was going to feed you for the next couple weeks. Would you put it All-In on that draw? I know what I would do.

amoeba 02-14-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
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You're still a rookie at cash NL. Why would you ever call an AI on a such a weak draw. You'd be better off pushing the action VS calling it for one.

BB definatley has a flush. Alot of folks just call the flop and hope for a safe turn to move AI. Most folks wont call an AI on a 4 card flush draw.

Let me ask you something. If you had 1500 cash sitting at a live 5-10 game, and that money was going to feed you for the next couple weeks. Would you put it All-In on that draw? I know what I would do.

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wtf...what kind of responce is this? alright, indulge me. What would you do if you were at a live 5-10 game with food money ?

Cent 02-14-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
I don't like the call, 95% of the time the BB all in raiser has a flush. You don't have many outs.

Reef 02-14-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
nah not 'bad' .. maybe marginal

jakhamma 02-14-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
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Let me ask you something. If you had 1500 cash sitting at a live 5-10 game, and that money was going to feed you for the next couple weeks. Would you put it All-In on that draw? I know what I would do.

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This advice is terrible....

I cant think of a worse approach to hand analysis

RunyonAve 02-14-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
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What would you do if you were at a live 5-10 game with hooker and blow money?

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MychCumstien 02-14-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
I don't think he has the flush here. Probably JJ or TT and trying to protect against your draw. the odds are heavily in favor of a set here. i.e. flopping a set 7.5 to 1, vs. flopping a flush 100 to 1.

Plus, think about what kind of hands are calling your prelfop raise? Pairs are much more likely than some random suited connectors that fit the flush theory. KQ suited is about the only non-pair that is likely to have called your prelfop raise and fit the flush theory. And if he has that, he shouldn't be so eager to push all in on the flop as he is way ahead.

The all in move on the flop to me would represent a low flush trying to protect against a higher flush, (not likely here because of the preflop action), or a set like JJ, or TT, trying to protect against a drawing hand (much more likely). Plus if you already flopped a flush (again not likely), in the villain's eyes, they have 10 outs to redraw to beat you.

I think you're looking at JJ or TT here, not a flush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Phresh 02-14-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Am i a bad player?
 
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ou didn't include JJ, or TT though. hmmm.

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JJ and TT don't limp preflop too often.


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Why do you include hands like Qh2h and 8h2h ?
and is it a format that includs Qh3h etc ? If yes, then I don't know how to do it ...

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I was just adding in a flopped flush. I don't really think it affects the EV of the hand if I make it Q2h as opposed to the more realistic T9h.


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