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mike l. 10-29-2007 08:24 PM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
think forever on the turn, c/r river, fold to a 3 bet.

surfdoc 10-29-2007 08:50 PM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
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think forever on the turn, c/r river, fold to a 3 bet.

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I do like this line too. It is for the most part all of the pleasure and none of the pain except I cry a little inside when he checks behind some hand like QhQx although that is pretty rare.

Maliant 10-29-2007 10:39 PM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
He's not a world class player 3-bet, next hand plz.

Garland 10-29-2007 11:22 PM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
3-bet/call down (given no river K or T).

I think a more interesting question is your plan if the turn blanks.

Garland

mike l. 10-30-2007 02:35 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
the guy doesnt have QQ. no one is checking QQ on a KKT flop in a bb steal scenario. ever.

surfdoc 10-30-2007 04:33 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
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the guy doesnt have QQ. no one is checking QQ on a KKT flop in a bb steal scenario. ever.

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I know. That is why I used the term "rare"

I thought about your line for a bit and now I actually don't like it as much due to the presence of the flush draw on board. If the river puts out the 4th heart he may check it behind or we may decide to bet it to prevent a check behind. We lose value and cry.

jskills 10-30-2007 08:14 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
Instantly 3-bet.

I'm not afraid of monsters under the bed or KT, KK, or TT right now. If he 4-bets, calling down seems right, although I really like your hand here.

vmacosta 10-30-2007 09:28 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
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think forever on the turn, c/r river, fold to a 3 bet.

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river heart kills your action if he doesn't have one.

By the way, what exactly *can* he have? No idea bout this guy but a mediocre online player might show up with a small pair, AQ, or KK.

Oh, and 3-bet pf.

SNOWBALL 11-06-2007 08:25 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
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the guy doesnt have QQ. no one is checking QQ on a KKT flop in a bb steal scenario. ever.

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eh I do sometimes when villain defends with a wide range preflop and likes to lead turns and rivers with air, but won't call me on the flop with A7. He also needs to be unaware so I don't have to protect my flop cbets with loads and loads of value

Otherwise it's pretty bad

SNOWBALL 11-06-2007 08:29 AM

Re: How badly can I get owned here?
 
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think forever on the turn, c/r river, fold to a 3 bet.

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river heart kills your action if he doesn't have one.

By the way, what exactly *can* he have? No idea bout this guy but a mediocre online player might show up with a small pair, AQ, or KK.



[/ QUOTE ] Oh, and 3-bet pf.

3 betting PF with 55 shouldn't be standard.


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