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oh sorry, the former. I like a turn b/f i think there's a little more value on the turn then the river(flush draws), and his range won't be too more defined if he checks the river to us. Also, if he was going to bluff at it he's not much more likely he'll bluff the river if the turn goes check/check, then bluff the turn after the flop goes check/check.

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again xanta, not necessarily. We really can't speculate, he could have Ax here i guess.

only thing we can say is that his line is fishy, we look kinda weak, we are getting decent odds.

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so call right? if we bet, i cant see folding being correct

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Call.

I'm gonna play AK like villain next time and see what happens [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

BTW: Shpanko, don't EVER EVER change your avatar

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I mean, his range is just soooo narrow here it's nuts. Unless he's ccing pf with Axs and then waited to the river to go for value (which would actually be decent postflop play) then wtf can he have?

I dunno, it's either AA or a 'fu, you can't call a shove' type spots.

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Wow, weird hand... But I think this is not a bad analysis. Idk... I don't mind calling though because his line makes little sense and makes me think bluff. Don't mind folding either though... Meh

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so call right? if we bet, i cant see folding being correct

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i think we have to call. damn marginal though

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Fold. People don't turn midpairs into bluffs here at 1/2. It's A LOOOOOOT more likely he checked an A 3 times.

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Fold. People don't turn midpairs into bluffs here at 1/2. It's A LOOOOOOT more likely he checked an A 3 times.

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Agreed. This is just not a bluff very often. You just don't see people doing it here, especially at 1/2.

Sure, it's a good spot to bluff for villian given your range. But very few people can even think on this level, to put all this together, to turn a made hand into a bluff, or to turn a hand like KQ they decided to check three times and all of a sudden make a huge river play.

Also, people, especially non-2p2ers, check aces here three times (or a hand like 22) more often than you'd think.

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easy fold on the river..

Id much prefer a turn bet and a river check....though obv bet river as played.

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i think this a rarely a bluff given your large river bet and the board texture. it looks like he is just one of those bad tricky trappy players who thinks make a big hand = check.