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southgapoker 07-18-2007 04:13 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
Just say yang's range is
TT+, AcKc
Then Childs is 50/50...

Childs ADMITTED Yang's range was this wide and I am pretty damn sure Yang's range is wider than that

Childs played this hand terribly.

djk123 07-18-2007 04:16 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just say yang's range is
TT+, AcKc
Then Childs is 50/50...

Childs ADMITTED Yang's range was this wide and I am pretty damn sure Yang's range is wider than that

Childs played this hand terribly.

[/ QUOTE ]

That range is waaaay too tight.

southgapoker 07-18-2007 04:19 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Just say yang's range is
TT+, AcKc
Then Childs is 50/50...

Childs ADMITTED Yang's range was this wide and I am pretty damn sure Yang's range is wider than that

Childs played this hand terribly.

[/ QUOTE ]

That range is waaaay too tight.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree.

I am just saying.

Even if Yang's range is that tight, Childs is 50/50 and his fold is abysmal.

southgapoker 07-18-2007 04:24 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
FWIW, Yang's range would have to be QQ+,AcKc or tighter for Childs to correctly fold.

If the range is as tight as JJ+,AcKc, the fold is wrong. And Childs ADMITTED TT and JJ were possible holdings for Yang.

ThePershore 07-18-2007 04:30 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
The fact he folded it face up is even worse...

ilushan 07-18-2007 04:33 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
Well, it was clear that Childs just crashed under pressure. He didn't want to go out in 9th place.
Fold was pretty bad. Fold face up was awful and became one of the reasons Yang ran over the table afterwards.

adanthar 07-18-2007 04:37 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
ahh, the good old live line of "I'll pot it with the third nuts to find out where I'm at"

curtains 07-18-2007 04:40 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
Sorry, when it says 3k and 2k I guess it means 2 million. Guess thats pretty obv though.

southgapoker 07-18-2007 04:45 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
Really...
I have done dumber things in my life than this I expect.

But I've never done something this stupid and then admitted on national TV I thought his range was 50/50 with me yet I folded getting 2.1:1 odds.

ANYONE can FT the ME. ANYONE.

betgo 07-18-2007 04:49 PM

Re: QQ hand folded face up beginning of WSOP FT
 
You can't think in terms of ranges here. Yang reraised an UTG raiser in 2nd position, so AA or KK is way more likely than JJ or TT, even if JJ/TT is "in his range". Still you have to get the money in given Yang's image.

I really doubt Yang had a middle pp. I think it was probably AA/KK or AK, but it it could be a move with anything.


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