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agnoke10 11-27-2007 02:17 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
i like this line a lot, this guy just isnt doing this with AK or even 99-JJ IMO.

ikestoys 11-27-2007 02:18 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
yeah b/c 38/7 guys are very consistent with how they play, never get out of line....

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starkwired 11-27-2007 03:46 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
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Also I hate preflop OOP. Just 4bet. Then you CAN fold to a 5bet.

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surely this turns our hand into a bluff

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Why? You are ahead of his BS range here. Stats are important, but if someone sucks, they suck.

Reraise to like 24, then you can reevaluate. As ike pointed out, he's a terrible player. Don't give him credit he doesn't deserve.

shpanko 11-27-2007 03:51 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
he's only got 80 bb's and is a bad player. I've seen this same reraise pf with literally any two cards from these types of villains. Either 4b pf or cr/call this flop.

This is a pretty nitty fold which I believe to be very -EV.

Miffed 11-27-2007 03:57 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
this feels dirty without any sort of read. Too often its just absolutly nothing or TT/JJ hands as much as AA/KK so i cant find a fold.
I dont like 4 betting preflop (personal preference) but i do like playing for stacks postflop

Grunch 11-27-2007 04:04 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
Raise. Anywhere.

thechuckness 11-27-2007 04:20 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
Pretty tough spot, maybe check raise flop and fold to a raise. I agree though that OOP is horrid, I like a 4 bet pre to see where you stand and fold to a 5 bet.

BGnight 11-27-2007 04:27 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
Yeah, w/ 80bb's just 4bet/call pf or push turn. If it's more than 100bb's I probably just call down.

Parsy 11-27-2007 04:37 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
i don't think it's much of a mistake as played, if at all.

I would c-r flop and probably shove the turn if called and possibly lay it down if 3 bet.

Pretty sure he bets the turn with AKc, also you haven't exactly declared the strength of your hand as played.

If you call the turn i think theres a resonable chance he will check KK, AA behind.

I've been awake for 24 hours though so i could be talking complete trash

orange 11-27-2007 04:38 PM

Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair
 
guy's a tard, just get it in.


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