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losingdonkey 11-28-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
WTF!!??

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5. Open-limping is much more viable because the odds of a raise behind you are so much smaller than you're used to. Feel free to open-limp Axs or suited connectors or small pocket pairs from early position.


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Micro Donk 11-28-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
pokey is unlike most of us and advocates open limping. nothing surprising. if it works for him, then by all means...

fozzy71 11-28-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
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WTF!!??

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5. Open-limping is much more viable because the odds of a raise behind you are so much smaller than you're used to. Feel free to open-limp Axs or suited connectors or small pocket pairs from early position.


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Obv Pokey thought this was the Full-Ring Forum.

*Dont tell anyone - but I have been known to do that too. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

**12 Replies, and still no lock. LOL

ICMoney 11-28-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
Don't question Pokey.

Just do it and you'll beat uNL.

/fanboy

King Spew 11-28-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
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/fanboy

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X2

Nice stepppin' up, Pokey

Pokey 11-28-2007 09:18 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
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pokey is unlike most of us and advocates open limping. nothing surprising. if it works for him, then by all means...

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Well, let me explain a bit more.

First of all, I'm making two important assumptions which I really should clarify:

1. The table is relatively loose and relatively passive.
2. The open-limper is a good postflop player with discipline and skill.

If these assumptions are true then open-limping is just fine with a speculative hand. The "passive" characteristic means that you're likely to see the flop on the cheap. The "loose" characteristic means that you're still likely to get paid off big-time if you hit your monster. The "disciplined" characteristic means that you're capable of escaping from TPNK-type hands. The "skilled" characteristic means that you're capable of extracting the extra money on the table when you connect.

There are three primary benefits to raising a speculative hand preflop:

1. To build folding equity for when you miss, giving you a second way to win. At a loose table, that's not as important a feature.

2. To start building a pot so that when you connect you can extract mucho dinero. At a loose table, that's again not as important a feature.

3. To disguise your other holdings and extract more value when you raise with a true monster. At a table with bad opponents that also won't be as important.

I'm willing to sacrifice these benefits in exchange for the absolutely insanely good implied odds that limping gets me. There's nothing like getting 130 times your preflop investment when you hit a monster in a limped pot and STILL get paid off on your all-in....

If those assumptions don't hold then open-limping isn't really a good choice. However, relative to the $400NL tables, those assumptions hold.

mocky 11-28-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
Read a book or two OP might i suggest "poker for dummies?"

kaz2107 11-28-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
sounds like u ran good a while back and now u r not running as good. just have the boomswitch get turned on for ur accnt. email support about that. it always works well

ICMoney 11-28-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
Post deleted by ICMoney

Sorry - I saw Pokey post and just skipped all the one-liners.

Chargers In 07 11-28-2007 09:28 PM

Re: Cant beat microstakes after playing higher.
 
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Why has no one posted the mandatory?

[b]Move up to where they respect your raises.

[/ QUOTE ]errr...said twice already.


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