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WLVRYN 08-07-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be.

yahboohoo 08-07-2007 09:16 PM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
Serious readers will notice this story comes from gambling911.com. Need I say more?

In all likelihood, letters were sent to people who played at certain sites that are part of this investigation, and invariably, some of those people are going to be online poker players. Ergo, in G911 tabloid-speak: "Utah's online poker players targeted in investigation."

But at least they keep the fire stoked... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

daedalus 08-07-2007 10:47 PM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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#1 - There is NO mention of the word "POKER" in this case.

#2 - The Wire Act makes this type of sports betting transaction illegal.

#3 - This has no relevance to the online poker debate.

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TheRedRocket 08-07-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be.

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its really really unlikely that this type of information would be collected and I also seriously doubt that it's true. my guess would be that porn ordering is pretty evenly disbursed amongst state lines.

I spent some time searching the internet and didnt find anything at all

kidpokeher 08-08-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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The most pious state in the union. Next door to the most libertarian too which is super ironic.

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Even more ironic when you consider Nevada passed a law against online gaming.

SumZero 08-08-2007 12:47 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be.

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its really really unlikely that this type of information would be collected and I also seriously doubt that it's true. my guess would be that porn ordering is pretty evenly disbursed amongst state lines.

I spent some time searching the internet and didnt find anything at all

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Iirc the factoid in question it was collected because there was a free speech trial on someone's porn and one of the turning points was "community standards" and the porn person proved that the claimed community standards were not the actual community standards on the basis of PPV porn (but when I heard it described it was talking about hotel PPV porn, not DirecTV).

Lucky 08-08-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
Well, if it is true Utah is sending letters, I'd imagine they'd be to online gamblers in general who'd associated with those in the case.

So it's odd he'd specify that solely online poker players were being targeted. Could this be an attempt to scare poker players into standing firm in the fight for internet gambling, rather than simply jumping on the wexler skill protection act bandwagon? Or is it possible the processor being charged only processed checks for poker, not sports because poker seemed safer?

TheEngineer 08-08-2007 07:40 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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The most pious state in the union. Next door to the most libertarian too which is super ironic.

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Even more ironic when you consider Nevada passed a law against online gaming.

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They passed a law against unregulated Internet gambling, but they do allow for instate licensed Internet gambling. They've not issued any licenses yet.

If IGREA passes, Nevada will likely (I assume, or why else pass the licensing provision) license some Internet gaming sites to operate within its borders but allow access to any state that doesn't opt-out and to any nation without a ban.

JRussell 08-08-2007 08:51 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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Well, if it is true Utah is sending letters, I'd imagine they'd be to online gamblers in general who'd associated with those in the case.

So it's odd he'd specify that solely online poker players were being targeted. Could this be an attempt to scare poker players into standing firm in the fight for internet gambling, rather than simply jumping on the wexler skill protection act bandwagon? Or is it possible the processor being charged only processed checks for poker, not sports because poker seemed safer?

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Sounds like they're referring to the same letter this guy received.

WLVRYN 08-08-2007 09:35 AM

Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
 
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This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be.

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its really really unlikely that this type of information would be collected and I also seriously doubt that it's true. my guess would be that porn ordering is pretty evenly disbursed amongst state lines.

I spent some time searching the internet and didnt find anything at all

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You can believe what you will, but my friend (who happens to be one of my best friends for that matter) managed payments to and contracts with all the various content providers for DirecTV for several years, so I tend to believe him over some random internet poster who doesnt "believe" it to be true. Also, there's no way in hell DirecTV would publish that information for public consumption either, so I dont doubt that its not freely available on the internet. I'll stop hijacking this thread now.


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