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ikestoys 10-30-2007 12:01 AM

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a flop check with AA is so gross imo

ikestoys is right ont he money as usual

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Do you think he's checking behind JJ-KK, do you think draws are too big a part of his range, or do you think the c/r makes our hand look too strong?

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I'll take all of the above, with #3 being most important, #1 being second important and #2 being least important.

The biggest reason tho is that we have a lot of money behind that we want to get into the pot, we shouldn't be [censored] around.

Isura 10-30-2007 12:05 AM

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I'm thinking its ok to check our whole range here, or bet it all. Also I think check/shove with all these hands is probably fine

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check/shoving ak is 100% spew

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You say he checks behind JJ-KK, and sets are hard to flop. So his range would be pretty polarized, and weighted towards bluffs since he can't win the pot any other way with 9 high or whatever. So I don't think it will ever be really bad, considering the math of it.

ikestoys 10-30-2007 12:07 AM

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I meant to say he may check behind JJ-KK... and relying him to fold JJ-KK is a rather dubious proposition.

blah-blah-blah 10-30-2007 01:41 AM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
1. AA - bet/get all-in. i probably bet $48-$52 although I'm not really sure about that bet size. If i were c-betting the flop that's what I would bet but I really can't see myself bluffing at this flop.

2. 75cc - will do the same as w/ AA.

3. AKo - probably c/f.

pineapple888 10-30-2007 01:43 AM

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Villain has tag stats. He's 3-bet a bit, and I decide to exercise some muscle. My image is pretty normal/good, I've just been stacking donkeys and stuff.

What is your line with
1) AA
2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3) AKo
4) Do you like the flop check with any of these hands?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $17.50
BB: $137.18
Hero (UTG): $472.30
MP: $126.31
CO: $296.62
BTN: $96

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $13</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36.50</font>, CO calls $23.50

Flop: ($74.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $38</font>,

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Grunch.

1.) AA, 4-bet more preflop to deny odds and get more $$ in. As played, just bet out and go broke.

2.) 75 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], pre is fine, flop c/r is sexy.

3.) AKo, pretty much hate the 4-bet, just small-ball it. As played, give up.

4.) 2 and 3.

This could all change with reads obv but in general this is how I'd play when this deep.

0evg0 10-30-2007 04:29 AM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
1) if you check you are fkin terrible
2) bet 50 on flop, shove turn
3) c/f

Unknown Soldier 10-30-2007 04:44 AM

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dont like cr w/ 75. jam it

ASPoker8 10-30-2007 07:29 AM

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General Thoughts: I think your 4bet size sucks with atc. Also I think this is reallllllly simple as a whole given the situation and hands you provided us with

1) bet
2) bet
3) check then fold

scallop 10-30-2007 08:22 AM

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General Thoughts: I think your 4bet size sucks with atc. Also I think this is reallllllly simple as a whole given the situation and hands you provided us with

1) bet
2) bet
3) check then fold

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Agree with these lines 100%

Suigin406 10-30-2007 08:48 AM

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bet
bet
c/f


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