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Burcak 11-28-2007 07:53 AM

Re: NL25 NFD GSSD I lost a lot of value
 
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With 100BB stacks this is a fold preflop every time

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No, its not. Why do people keep making broad statements like this



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Well to me it is an easy fold pf. If not a fold it's a raise, maybe. Calling oop with a hand that is easily dominated by his range (and imo dominated is worse than crushed) with big stacks is simply not in my arsenal.

I also don't think it is a broad statement. KQs plays bad in this situation imho. Please tell me why this is too broad for your taste.

ama0330 11-28-2007 08:19 AM

Re: NL25 NFD GSSD I lost a lot of value
 
Saying its a fold "every time" implies that its an obvious and unarguable fold, which I disagree with. I can think of heaps of situations to call, most of which involve outplaying my opponent on later streets or extracting/cring a strong draw on the flop.

Im not debating that a fold is good, I think its fine, but to say its a fold every time is misleading

Burcak 11-28-2007 08:38 AM

Re: NL25 NFD GSSD I lost a lot of value
 
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Saying its a fold "every time" implies that its an obvious and unarguable fold, which I disagree with. I can think of heaps of situations to call, most of which involve outplaying my opponent on later streets or extracting/cring a strong draw on the flop.

Im not debating that a fold is good, I think its fine, but to say its a fold every time is misleading

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Well okay. I still don't think saying it is a fold pf is too broad. Ofc you may want to outplay someone after the flop and get into pots you wouldn't otherwise get into just because he is a donk. But that starts with getting involved in situations where you have position. Whether or not you have position is part of the donkness factor, imo.

That being said, I am sure KQs is strong enough for some people in SSNL or higher to outplay even the regs of micro stakes, but in microstakes forum I think people should rather focus on having position rather than outplaying oop. This includes me btw.

That's why, in micro stakes forum context, I think this is a fold pf.

That being said I see your point and agree with it to some extent.


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