Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

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ilp,
what range do you put button on when he raises the turn>

SB is also dumb, 50/15/1 over 100 hands avg 5.6 players

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Ignore my original post Yourface, for some reason i thought btn open limped. So I was thinking this guy's a maniac and he cant have an ace, which is why I was never folding. In your scenario I would fold the turn. Sorry about the confusion.

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

haha damnit
for a while there I thought a good player thought my play was good

I hate folding a showdownable hand vs a retard

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

so you think b/f > c/c ?

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

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haha damnit
for a while there I thought a good player thought my play was good

I hate folding a showdownable hand vs a retard

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You have one opponent on the river and there is only one overcard to your pair. You are getting 10:1. Call. You come out ahead if you win more than one time in ten. I don't think you'll lose more than 90% of the time here.

If you call this turn you should plan to call the river to any non-broadway.

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

Why is this not super easy turn fold?

Reasons for fold:
1) 50 hands is not close enough to make any definitive read
2) He raised into 2 opponents not one, making it much more likely he has a made hand
3) There are no draws on the flop. He cold calls 2 on the flop and then raises turn.

What can you possibly beat here?

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

maybe it is a fold, but with the odds I'm getting I don't see how it can be super easy fold. I am getting the right price to draw vs a lot of his hands

also villain is dumb and the ace is a big scare card. I think he is raising as a semibluff sometimes, though noone else seems to agree with that

Re: facing raise on super scare turn vs LAG
 

I'm not saying call or fold the turn... but I think if you decide to call the turn, you HAVE to call the river for sure, versus a 70/35.

That said, even a 70/35 usually have something nice when he calls 2 cold on the flop, so perhaps the turn is a fold.