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Binbs 09-11-2007 12:47 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
Id rather just call turn and fold river.

I doubt hes gonna call with worse to a turn raise. MAYBE QQ or JJ depending on history.

sauce123 09-11-2007 12:49 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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What do you think about a turn raise?

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my dilemma was that BB defines his hand 100% on turn. if i shove turn, sure derek may call with the same range of hands we get value from on most rivers- 88+ essentially. however we now get to value stack ourselves against BBs range of gutshots, 5x, 7x, Fds, sets etc etc

JEFF or DAD 09-11-2007 01:00 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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flop also i think u have to reaise fold here and try to get some information in a multiway pot.

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sauce123 09-11-2007 01:01 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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flop also i think u have to reaise fold here and try to get some information in a multiway pot.

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didnt someone say we wanna play for max ev not max ease...

o wait... every good player ever...

JEFF or DAD 09-11-2007 01:05 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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flop also i think u have to reaise fold here and try to get some information in a multiway pot.

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didnt someone say we wanna play for max ev not max ease...

o wait... every good player ever...

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dunno if it was clear but i was commenting on how bad raise-folding the flop "for information" was

jfish 09-11-2007 01:05 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
give him a chance, he won the million.

sauce123 09-11-2007 01:07 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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flop also i think u have to reaise fold here and try to get some information in a multiway pot.

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gaAaahahhghFKflknkndrhhghb

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didnt someone say we wanna play for max ev not max ease...

o wait... every good player ever...

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dunno if it was clear but i was commenting on how bad raise-folding the flop "for information" was

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agreed

futuredoc85 09-11-2007 01:13 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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I would almost always re raise preflop, which im guessing is yur standard play. flop also i think u have to reaise fold here and try to get some information in a multiway pot. River is a sick spot but it wouldnt have gotten to this point if u have played the other streets differently

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stay

in


school

Parlay Slow 09-11-2007 01:19 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
I think you played this hand really well all the way, and now you should fold

FionnMac 09-11-2007 01:20 AM

Re: tricky spot against DerekJC
 
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I think you played this hand really well all the way, and now you should fold

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why don't you like a flop raise? not like bb is a mega donk or anything in all likliness.


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