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pvn,

Crunchy peanut butter isn't used to put bullets in other people's flesh.

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What about candy, it's used to put diabetes in childrens blood.

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Yeah, and some people are averse to sunlight. If you choose to ridicule my valid point, instead of pointing out the gaping flaws in the analogies of one your own, then your bias becomes exceedingly obvious.

Guns are a public safety issue, regardless of whether you think they help or hurt it. You guys agree with that every time you argue that armed citizens would help stop crime. So pvn is either being silly or dishonest comparing the issue to peanut butter preferences.

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Guns will exist in all societies. The question is, what do you require from an individual to sell him a weapon?

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I have no right to require anything of anyone else.

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Should you have strict laws making it difficult owning a weapon or laws that benefits gun producers but "sadly" increases the death rates?

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How about neither?

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pvn,

Crunchy peanut butter isn't used to put bullets in other people's flesh.

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You can choke on peanut butter. And some people are fatally allergic to it.

I have several guns, and none of them have ever put bullets into other people's flesh.

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pvn,

Crunchy peanut butter isn't used to put bullets in other people's flesh.

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What about candy, it's used to put diabetes in childrens blood.

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Yeah, and some people are averse to sunlight. If you choose to ridicule my valid point, instead of pointing out the gaping flaws in the analogies of one your own, then your bias becomes exceedingly obvious.

Guns are a public safety issue, regardless of whether you think they help or hurt it. You guys agree with that every time you argue that armed citizens would help stop crime. So pvn is either being silly or dishonest comparing the issue to peanut butter preferences.

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Peanut butter is a public safety issue. There's even peanut butter control in Canada. You think I'm kidding?

http://www.calgaryallergy.ca/Article...feliberty.html

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Guns are a public safety issue, regardless of whether you think they help or hurt it. You guys agree with that every time you argue that armed citizens would help stop crime. So pvn is either being silly or dishonest comparing the issue to peanut butter preferences.

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I worry about handgun accidents hardly any more than I worry about peanut butter accidents.

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I worry about handgun accidents hardly any more than I worry about peanut butter accidents.

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I'm not talking about accidents. I'm talking about suicides, homicides, armed robberies. I don't remember the last time someone was threatened with a jar of peanut butter. And yes, peanut butter can be dangerous, which is why there are mandated warning labels, and the requirement to notify (or avoid) peanut products in some catered foods.

Also, pvn's original analogy is about forcing consumption of something, which is the opposite of taking it away. Notice how he shifts the goalposts later on, saying it is indeed a public safety issue, when he was originally talking about forcing someone to eat it.

Bottom line: to say that gun control is similar to forcing someone to eat peanut butter against his will is either silly or dishonest. At least own up to that.

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Guns are a public safety issue, regardless of whether you think they help or hurt it. You guys agree with that every time you argue that armed citizens would help stop crime. So pvn is either being silly or dishonest comparing the issue to peanut butter preferences.

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I worry about handgun accidents hardly any more than I worry about peanut butter accidents.

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I worry about peanut butter a lot more. I have kids, they have friends, I eat a lot of peanut butter (crunchy, of course). All sorts of crazy [censored] can happen.

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Bottom line: to say that gun control is similar to forcing someone to eat peanut butter against his will is either silly or dishonest. At least own up to that.

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It's the same thing. It's a preference one person imposes on another.

Forcing you to do X, preventing you from doing Y, it makes no difference.

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Forcing you to do X, preventing you from doing Y, it makes no difference.

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Is forcing X to murder Y the same morally/ethically/otherwise as restraining X from murdering Y, while maintaining X's life?

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Bottom line: to say that gun control is similar to forcing someone to eat peanut butter against his will is either silly or dishonest. At least own up to that.

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It's the same thing. It's a preference one person imposes on another.

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Are road rules a preference one person imposes on another? Should they exist?