Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

Let's see -- you're getting a little less than 3:2. If Villain will only play sets and AdXd this way (equally likely in terms of combos, with the sets probably becoming a little more likely once we take preflop into account), then you have a super-easy fold as a slight favorite to the AdXd and a massive underdog to the sets.

Throw in AQ and say Villain will always play that this way as well, and suddenly we have an easy call.

So hell if I know against an unknown. From what I've seen, these massive overbets are still kind of rare from full stacks, and they're called even more rarely, and as a result they're hard to interpret.

Anyway, I think the fold is all right.

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

I think you see a FD just as much as you see a set

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

i dont fold this... people do weird [censored] in 3bet pots. i think folding overpairs in 3bet pots on these flops to unknowns is a recipe for disaster. this can so easily be a FD, random ui pp, SD, a Q... his range is much wider than just sets

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

wtf, move up where they respect your lay downs

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

I gotta call this also. I would think that a set would try to extract more value. I'm more likely to think this was a flush draw, that was looking for a fold, but wasn't horrified by a call. I think you're a slight favorite here, and I always like to get the money in when I'm a favorite.

P.S. GSYKES avatar is giving me nightmares!!

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Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

If he's a tight passive -sounds he might be from your description I fold too - vs loose bad players I snap call - this is Qx/fdraw most of the time - vs him a set.


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ye me too - subliminal messaging methinks ...

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

please never fold this

Re: Fold KK on the flop after aggression
 

Wow I cant believe how many people are saying this is a fold. I'm sure were beat here a decent % of the time, but I cant imagine many villains whos range is tight enough to make this a fold, especially if you only have 15 hands on him.

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i cant fold this