Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

I only put in 3 combos of KQo seeing how he is fairly tight. I guess if you think my range is off then any comments are appreciated. I think KQ gives me action on this board seeing as how he has an oesd. I am slightly behind here but the dead money in the pot should compensate for this. Plus I gave him a pretty tight rr range. If I put something random in there assuming he likes to do this out of no where with a suited connector or gap because its his favorite hand, then the ranges get alot closer.

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Board: 5d Jh Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.629% 45.23% 01.40% 21492 666.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 53.371% 51.97% 01.40% 24696 666.00 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, JcJd, JcJs, JdJs, JhJs, TcTd, TcTh, TdTh, AKs, AdQd, AsQs, KdQd, KsQs, AKo, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQh, AdQs, AhQd, AhQs, AsQd, AsQh, KcQs, KdQs, KhQs }


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Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

well a lot of your combos you give him with a queen in it you have so that may skew your results. The problem with raising here is that he will only call/push with hands that beat you and I think if he whiffed he will not be pushing the issue on the turn if you call the flop. If ths guy is fairly regular to you, you should probably 4bet this preflop to $16 and see how he reacts.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

If I 4 bet QQ pf I am calling a shove. I 4 bet small sometimes with hands as a bluff which I can then let go but I wont turn QQ into a bluff. I put some queens in his range because I think its fair to assume he 3 bets AQ alot and KQ sometimes. That is why I discounted the number of KQ combos.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

villain will be afraid of the J and 10 on flop also so I think ou can bet and safely fold to raise

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

you raise UTG and 4bet him.. if he doesn't have AA/KK he will not play back trust me. AK will fold here rather than push more often than you think as will most any hand that can outdraw you on the flop.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

Youre probably correct but the problem is if he plays back with AK and/or JJ then I have to call as I put in 1/3 of my stack and now have odds.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

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Board: 5d Jh Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.629% 45.23% 01.40% 21492 666.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 53.371% 51.97% 01.40% 24696 666.00 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, JcJd, JcJs, JdJs, JhJs, TcTd, TcTh, TdTh, AKs, AdQd, AsQs, KdQd, KsQs, AKo, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQh, AdQs, AhQd, AhQs, AsQd, AsQh, KcQs, KdQs, KhQs }


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You have to take out the Qc and Qh since you have those cards. I think you should discount many hands like AQ/KQ since you have two of the Qs in your hand anyway. Maybe cut the number of those hands in half and add one random hand, then run it again.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

well you didnt call pf to set mine did you?

some lines to take v. tighter tags is to c/c flop and c/f the turn. its unlikely that villan (tags) will double barrel in rr-ed pots at this level and i expect him to check behind with AK/AQ a tremendous amount.

if he's more aggro, v. easy c/shove on the flop (ie. if stuff like AJ/QK are in his rr-ing range).

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

No I definitely didnt call to set mine thats why I think c/f is weak like I said. Thats a good point about him being aggro but his AF definitely isnt low. Im guessing youre referring to pfr.

Re: QQ 3 bet pot oop - seemingly simple spot
 

raise that [censored] up?