Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

[censored] you're at the $114s now too?

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

I'd probably play it the same and fold the river.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

Not all 2+2ers are created equal, I honestly think it depends on which 2+2er it is. Though, I should say that I pretty much never fire this particular 3rd barrel anymore as villian, once you call the flop and turn I know you have a hand that will be difficult for me to make fold on the river, meaning the river bet SHOULD be a value bet nearly always - so I'd probably fold the river most of the time as Hero.

As hero, my default line against an unknown would be to raise the turn, but it depends on which 2+2er it is.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

Villain in this hand is TheVenetian.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

Oh well, you should call in that case. He's obviously just after your blinds.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Sorry I'll get my coat.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

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Villain in this hand is TheVenetian.

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This may sound weird, but given that, I would raise it to 120 pf.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

Ok serious answer I would fold the river. I was just making a joke about 'venetian blinds'.. but nobody ever gets my British humour [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

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Ok serious answer I would fold the river. I was just making a joke about 'venetian blinds'.. but nobody ever gets my British humour [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I love British humor!

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

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As hero, my default line against an unknown would be to raise the turn, but it depends on which 2+2er it is.

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Given that we hit a pretty solid draw and are often good already, I am a strong advocate of not raising the turn (especially since we are getting such good odds to see the river).

As far as the river goes, I think it is very close, but I would venture to guess that calling is slightly more -EV than folding, but I think it's pretty marginal.

Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds
 

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Villain in this hand is TheVenetian.

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I'd call turn and fold the river