Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

btw, this is reminding me of how i fought against the 5/10 rule way back when. lol

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

whats the 5/10 rule?

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

There are a lot more productive things you can use your brain for than cooking up scenarios where it might possibly be marginally correct to fold KK preflop.

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

There are situations where you can fold KK preflop, you have to have an insane read and be able to remove QQ and AK from their 4betting range. So basically dont fold KK preflop.

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

I'm like 99% sure OP shoved and won fwiw.

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

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wow! no one has thought of this before... there isn't thread after thread debunking what you are saying in the archives... people aren't taking you seriously because they can't think of the refutation, not that its been done over and over and over again.

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Nothing like a little self-righteous sarcasm. I'm not trying to pretend to be Christopher [censored] Columbus here. I just think it's semi-interesting and much closer than the avg. 2p2er would think.

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

its annoying really...
its not close...

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

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its annoying really...
its not close...

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this better, villain 36/15/1 thru 100 hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $159.05
Hero (UTG): $237.45
CO: $197
BTN: $281.30
SB: $42

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $28</font>,

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

For me this is an easy shove. To complicate things a little,

a)how would you play had the effective stacks were 300BB?
b)How deep do have to be to fold to a 5-bet shove?

Re: It Feels So Dirty To Want To Fold KK Preflop
 

ive never folded KK pf. ever. ive stacked off twice in my 70k hands at AP to AA for 200bbs. moral of the story-dont fold.