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wpr101 05-08-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
Looks like a fairly clear fold to me.

whickerda 05-08-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
Villian is definitely afraid to see a flop. Often it's going to be JJ, QQ, AK. Occasionally AQs down to A10s. Occasionally 22-99. It might even be KK not wanting to see an A flop. I think the key factor in the decision is not having any reads on villian. Wait a couple of rounds and see if he's trying this too often. If so, snap him off.
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JimGil 05-08-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
Just a hypothetical Q - what if OP had JJ? Still a fold?

nath 05-08-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
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Just a hypothetical Q - what if OP had JJ? Still a fold?

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not sure but i'd call with QQ

registrar 05-08-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
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Just a hypothetical Q - what if OP had JJ? Still a fold?

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I'd probably call.

05-08-2007 04:11 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
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Just a hypothetical Q - what if OP had JJ? Still a fold?

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I'd probably call.

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NoahL 05-08-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
easy fold. With QQ I insta-call. With JJ, I find a fold.

PantsOnFire 05-08-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
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Just a hypothetical Q - what if OP had JJ? Still a fold?

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Without a solid read, my calling range here is probably QQ+. My end game is more of shove game than a call game.

lorddoc 05-08-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
If you are a bad player you should call and gamble. But since I guess you are good player you should fold and outplay/outpush your opponents.


Monte carlo simulation results from Poker Calculator 1.1.4.1
Texas Hold'em, 100000 combinations tested.

Hand 1:
TsTc

Hand 2:
Range of hands: AA , KK , QQ , JJ , TT , 99 , 88 , 77
AKs, AQs, AKo

Hand | 1 | 2 |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win | 48126 | 49962 |
Draw | 1912 | 1912 |
Lose | 49962 | 48126 |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win% | 49.08% | 50.92% |
------+--------------+--------------+

ZJ123 05-08-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Two Tens facing an open shove (Stars 100k)
 
He has AK like 75% of time, IMO, still not sure i could bring myself to call here.


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