Re: Give me a 4bet size please
 

ya I agree

Re: Give me a 4bet size please
 

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because it is a squeeze, i think you may as well just shove

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I dont get your logic here.
imo the wider villains range the less money we need to risk to take it down

as for the hand i'd raise to $80 and fold to a shove.

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Fold to a shove? I'm nowhere near pokerstove right now but after putting in almost half our stack we surely are commited to call a shove vs. a reasonable range. He might even look us up lighter if he is aware of the fact that we are sick of his 3-bets.

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yes, you definitely cannot raise to $80 and fold

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If he shoves JJ+, AKo, AKs then calling is break even.
Unless i've seen them do it before i dont assume people shoving JJ here.