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BoYLeBaNoN 12-03-2006 07:09 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
how bad is a smooth call here

sng-sam 12-03-2006 07:17 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
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how bad is a smooth call here

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chip spewing 101

SAM

lastchance 12-03-2006 07:19 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
I'd bet my entire BR that not folding here loses you money in the long run.

Ryendal 12-03-2006 07:27 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Well, I am happy to have posted this hand. I really think 2+2 thinking is really formated.

Firstly, this hand wasn't played by me. The guy is not a 2+2er and have a 23% ROI after 730 games ( he started way before, but since he is on pokerstars, I can see his stats on shakscop ). I think it will be hard to find better than him.

Well he raised to 300 and feel happy with it.
I was sure almost everybody would answer to fold ( so easy ) but I was expecting another answer.

And I think it is a case where raise > all-in > Call
The fold is somewhere ...

After all, if the guy call and fold to the flop continuation bet, it is 300 that you win instead of 100 after an all-in.

For sure, it is possible that Fold is the best move, but I

lastchance 12-03-2006 07:32 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Just because you're good doesn't mean you don't have leaks.

This is a major, major leak.

Ryendal 12-03-2006 07:34 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Do you understand there is a chance that you could ( may be ) be wrong ?
At least I like the use of the doubt. You are all so sure of yourself that is sometimes embarassing ... sorry

tozzy 12-03-2006 07:36 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Just because this guy has a Rois of 23% on 700 sngs doesnt make this play correct, instead, it really is awful. So is anything but folding.
If you really, really feel a need to raise this hand then push it, but yet, this remains terrible.

FoldYourLife 12-03-2006 07:37 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
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Firstly, this hand wasn't played by me. The guy is not a 2+2er and have a 23% ROI after 730 games. I think it will be hard to find better than him. Well he raised to 300 and feel happy with it.

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lol fold

AllinDan 12-03-2006 07:45 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
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After all, if the guy call and fold to the flop continuation bet, it is 300 that you win instead of 100 after an all-in.

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wtf? after you raise you have 800 left and if you see a flop there's at least 600 in the pot. wtf are you gonna c-bet? 300? Are you gonna stack off on a KJ7 board? Are you gonna bet/fold a 248 flop?

Are you gonna call a pf push? you have odds against any reasonable player's range, but it'll still be a terrible call.

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Do you understand there is a chance that you could ( may be ) be wrong ?
At least I like the use of the doubt. You are all so sure of yourself that is sometimes embarassing ... sorry

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right back at you buddy, this hand is major spew. You also haven't even made a case for why playing this hand would be good, other than "OMG SUITED CONNECTORS AND THEY'RE PAINT TOO"

Ryendal 12-03-2006 07:48 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
the first part of your answer show a flaw in your process thinking.

The second part shows that you are a prick


My part is that I fold because I multitable and I don't feel any desire to play such spots ...


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