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davebreal 09-18-2007 04:39 PM

Re: $10/$20 LO8 hand from EP
 
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Hi Dave - Interesting idea. Has that been working out well for you?

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early trials at 9-max haven't been profitable.

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I'm very interested in the specifics. I imagine the way you play hands like this is highly opponent dependent. Is that right?

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yes, if i consider the blinds superior players, i limp or fold instead.

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Do you open with a raise from the cut-off position whether there are limpers or not? If so, does it depend on who the limpers are?

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only w/o limpers, although raising this hand against passive limpers might be ok sometimes.

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What do you do on the next betting round when you have not gotten a very good fit with the flop and anybody left in the hand checks to you?

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depends on # of players, if it's heads-up it seems like a mandatory steal attempt situation.

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What do you do on the next betting round when you have not gotten a very good fit with the flop and somebody bets into you?

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check-fold most of the time, unless player commonly makes total bluffs. occasionally bluff-raise flop.

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What do you think a good flop fit is with this starting hand? (I imagine that is at least somewhat dependent on how many are in the pot with you).


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probably most flops containing at least 2 high cards.


I'm still unsure of LP hands to open the pot when first in.. i often find myself with 2459ss, A5KJr, and QJTTss in these positions and haven't formulated my own autopilot strategy yet.

Buzz 09-18-2007 06:27 PM

Re: $10/$20 LO8 hand from EP
 
Thanks Dave - very helpful.

Buzz

bballwiz 09-20-2007 11:45 AM

Re: $10/$20 LO8 hand from EP
 
Is it a mistake if you don't cap it preflop, its it a badplay if you just call getting raised preflop here?

Buzz 09-20-2007 04:23 PM

Re: $10/$20 LO8 hand from EP
 
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Is it a mistake if you don't cap it preflop, its it a badplay if you just call getting raised preflop here?

[/ QUOTE ]bballwiz - I probably would not raise preflop with Ad2h4cKc from UTG. I think of the hand as more of a "pulling" hand than a "pushing" hand.

Since I play in B&M casinos and loose games abound, it doesn't make much sense for me to hang around in a rock garden, except as biding my time waiting for the game to loosen up. Thus Dave probably has a much better perspective than I have on how to play the hand in a tight, aggressive game (which seems to be the type of game he's describing here).

However, if I did raise with the hand before the flop, I'd probably cap with it on the first betting round. But I don't know as I'd call it a "mistake" or "bad play" not to cap pre-flop. Seems to me to depend upon your motive for raising or calling.

Buzz

Grandma_DOG 09-21-2007 02:21 AM

Re: $10/$20 LO8 hand from EP
 
In a low limit game, I'd play this the same. But preflop would be different if the game was loose. Tight, you played it as I would hoping to get HU.

villian is hard at work trying to tell you he has a Boat. I'd play that exactly the same and call him down.


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