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Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

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I'd fold pre with JTs.

I'd raise or fold 55, and ATs on the flop.

Depends on villain how I play JTs on the flop.

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You're folding a $4 pot to a $0.75 bet? Yikes. I call that all day with AT, although I might fold the AT preflop. I dont like that hand oop vs a raise very much, unless villain is too loose.

edit: Jekyl - it'd be hugely to your advantage to get PT and PA and get them working properly and use them. "Not a pro, not a fish" describes most players. Using the #s makes reading players much easier.

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

lol...I didn't pay much attention to stack sizes...

this is why I never respond to threads with more than one hand.

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

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I'd fold pre with JTs.

I'd raise or fold 55, and ATs on the flop.

Depends on villain how I play JTs on the flop.

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You're folding a $4 pot to a $0.75 bet? Yikes. I call that all day with AT, although I might fold the AT preflop. I dont like that hand oop vs a raise very much, unless villain is too loose.

edit: Jekyl - it'd be hugely to your advantage to get PT and PA and get them working properly and use them. "Not a pro, not a fish" describes most players. Using the #s makes reading players much easier.

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I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5.

To be honest I am not sure what is tight, avg, loose vpip; what the pfr% means (low = weak, high = aggressive?) and Tot aggreassion (low is weak, high is aggressive?)

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

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OK, one of these hands was real, but it made me wonder if I should handle other straights differently. How would you play the hand in each of these three different scenerios?

Also, CO seamed fine, not a fish, not a pro.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($34.45)
BB ($34.10)
UTG ($14.10)
UTG+1 ($14.75)
MP1 ($24)
MP2 ($14.30)
CO ($63.55)
Button ($36.10)

Senerio 1... Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Senerio 2... Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Senerio 3... Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds.

Turn: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.25, Hero raises to $8, CO raises to $13.75, Hero raises to $32.7, CO calls $18.95.

River: ($70.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $70.15

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I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5.

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

Villain is ~40/12/2.8 in ~100 hands.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $171.90
SB: $340.80
Hero (BB): $214.75
UTG: $237.40
CO: $208.40

Pre-Flop: Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12

Turn: ($40) 3http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $50, Hero calls $25

River: ($140) Thttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $140, Hero ?

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

Simple ? flop decision:

Villain is 21/8/0.55 and calls ~60% of c-bets.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $114.40
CO: $200.45
Hero (BTN): $325.15
SB: $109.30
BB: $204.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG raises to $4, CO folds, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $15, 2 folds

Flop: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero ?

It is worth noting that he went into his time bank before calling preflop and also used quite a bit of time before checking the flop.

Notice his stack size.

What's the plan if I check here?

if I c-bet?

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

Villain is ~35/25 over ~150 hands of data mining. I'm fairly new to this table (maybe a couple orbits) so I dont know how he previously reacted to 3 bets.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $314.65
SB: $254
Hero (BB): $203
UTG: $310.75
MP: $100
CO: $76.55

MP posts $2
Pre-Flop: Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, MP checks, CO folds, BTN raises to $9, SB folds, Hero raises to $28, MP folds, BTN raises to $314.65 and is All-In, Hero ?

He snap shoved, for what that's worth.

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

Simple preflop decision?

Raiser is 20/17. BB is 26/20 and has one of those FT football uniform avatars, which I think means he won a FTOPS tourney or something, for whatever thats worth.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $145.45
BTN: $569.25
Hero (SB): $202.90
BB: $221.65
UTG: $203.40
MP: $217.15

Pre-Flop: 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, MP raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero ?

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

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OK, one of these hands was real, but it made me wonder if I should handle other straights differently. How would you play the hand in each of these three different scenerios?

Also, CO seamed fine, not a fish, not a pro.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($34.45)
BB ($34.10)
UTG ($14.10)
UTG+1 ($14.75)
MP1 ($24)
MP2 ($14.30)
CO ($63.55)
Button ($36.10)

Senerio 1... Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Senerio 2... Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Senerio 3... Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds.

Turn: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.25, Hero raises to $8, CO raises to $13.75, Hero raises to $32.7, CO calls $18.95.

River: ($70.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $70.15

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I am still learning how to use pt, PAHUD... so I think you all provide VPIP, PFR% and total aggression freq, so according to PT he was 38/18/1.5.

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That guy is loose and somewhat aggressive, but not as aggressive as he should be if he's putting money in the pot that often.

I dont think I want to play AT OOP so I usually reraise or fold preflop. If I reraise and he 4 bets I dump it. If he calls I'm fairly careful about playing the hand from there.

I probably just fold JT preflop, although I'd sometimes reraise.

I would usually call the 55 and would not c/r the turn if thats what you had. I think I might call down if he continues under betting the river and just fold if he makes a real river bet.

Re: $25NL hit straight, now what

BB is the 26/20/6.83 FT football uniform avatar dude from one of the previous hands I posted. Whats your standard play in this spot against guys like that?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $130.60
BTN: $577.55
Hero (SB): $294.90
BB: $214.55
UTG: $208.50
MP: $207.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero ?