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She tried to kill herself before this.

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No. Her mother said she "talked" about suicide in third grade and had been in counseling since.

It was the other parent who said she tried it before to limit her own guilty conscience.

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And I'm not saying it's "standard kid stuff." I do think that it is much much worse if an adult is doing it.

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I think it is worse. I am not certain it is much worse, because I think the intentions and awareness of results are probably usually pretty similar. I'm guessing that the reaction a lot of people are having is probably based on an analogy to "A guy should not hit a girl." It is also obviously far less common, and so I think people haven't been as numbed to it as they are by kids doing it to each other.

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Legally, as has been said, it seems like a very very slippery slope.

Karmically (heh), I'm fine with those parents dying.

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It's worth noting that this girl's parents are partly at fault for letting her get so fat. Bad parenting led to a very unhappy child.

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Legally, as has been said, it seems like a very very slippery slope.

Karmically (heh), I'm fine with those parents dying.

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this is basically all I meant to say in my previous a million posts ITT... lol

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it is much much much much much worse for an adult to do this. Not even close imo

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To reiterate,

The thing that pisses me off the most is that the parents don't even feel guilty about it (outside of the obvious things that piss me off).

BLARRRRRR.

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I really hope they do. I really hope everynight they lay awake for a while feeling absolutely tormented. Which is possible, the kind of person who would do that in the first place, isnt the kind of person to say they feel bad about it for a newspaper interview, they are gunna say they dont feel bad and it wasnt their fault, cuz that would be admiting they were wong and accepting blame and thatsnot what [censored] human beings do. But they truly might realize they are to blame and be tormented about it. Tho its also entirely possible they dont feel bad about it, because thats what [censored] human beings do, and they are definitely that.

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The fact the family did not file suit suggests that they know they did a lot of nasty stuff to their own daughter and feel guilty about it.

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This is complete B.S. and conjecture with no facts to back it up. From the article it appears her parents were trying to take every reasonable precaution with their daughter's welfare.

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Its not murder because they didnt kill her. That doesnt change the fact IMO that they are responsible for her death. Their malicious action resulted in her death. I dont care whatever legal term you wanna call it, they should be held responsible.

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How is anybody ever responsible for the actions of someone else (not speaking legally)? If you make fun of a poor person and call them dirty and make fun of their raggedy clothes, are you responsible for them consquently robbing a dept store? Or if you make fun of a depressed person and call them worthless and make fun of their boring life, are you responsible for them consequently ending their own life?

People's actions are their own. Being cruel to someone is a mean thing to do. Taking someone's life is a mean thing to do. Those are all things you choose to do yourself. But you can't be held morally responsible for the actions of others, which are completely out of your control. That the girl happened to kill herself immediately afterward is not their responsibility - it's her own and nobody else's.

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gump,

I don't think the awareness of results is at all similar. The intentions might be similar, agreed. The awareness though, should be really really really different because a 40 year old adult has about a 25-0 edge in years of "life experience" in dealing with dramatic situations like this.

That would be, I guess, what I was trying to disagree with you about. Thanks for making an articulate post though so I could piggyback and explain my side clearly. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]