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Schneids 10-20-2007 06:59 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
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I'm guessing this is Scott Tom. His wife is Hispanic and this dude looks a lot like Philip Tom (the poker player):

Bah, link is broked - It is pic # 1511

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Is this the one?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5...ottommbim9.jpg

edit -- too slow, oh well now it's preserved in history even if the pics get removed.

Cruzincat 10-20-2007 07:00 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Can someone repaste Phil Tom's pic now? You may have violated copywrite laws there ^

SlackerMcFly 10-20-2007 07:01 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Yep. That's him (I'm guessing).

cpitt398 10-20-2007 07:02 PM

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I'm guessing this is Scott Tom. His wife is Hispanic and this dude looks a lot like Philip Tom (the poker player):

Bah, link is broked - It is pic # 1511

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Is this the one?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5...ottommbim9.jpg

edit -- too slow, oh well now it's preserved in history even if the pics get removed.

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did that article list Scott Tom's wife's name in the plane problem thingy? If so, im assuming it was hispanic/

Antoine.p 10-20-2007 07:04 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Or this one ?

Antoine.p 10-20-2007 07:05 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Regarding small jet airplanes : what's the probability (like on 1.000.000 take-offs) for a front tire to explode during take-off ?

N 82 50 24 10-20-2007 07:07 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
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I'm guessing this is Scott Tom. His wife is Hispanic and this dude looks a lot like Philip Tom (the poker player):

Bah, link is broked - It is pic # 1511

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Is this the one?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5...ottommbim9.jpg

edit -- too slow, oh well now it's preserved in history even if the pics get removed.

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If the previously posted pic of Phil Tom is accurate, I would bet a lot of money that this is Scott Tom. They have a very similar look.

suzzer99 10-20-2007 07:07 PM

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So what happened with the Seif/stuckingph HHs? To me if those never surface it points a lot more toward Seif's guilt.

xTheKidx 10-20-2007 07:13 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
http://www.photoshelter.com/gallery-img-...mp;pagtotal=168

pokerstudAA 10-20-2007 07:14 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Nicky Hilton Host New Year's Eve Pure Nightclub Poker Tournament

Nicky Hilton plays in her namesake poker tournament at Caesars Palace on New Year's Eve.

Absolute Poker's Phil Tom was playing in the tournament.

I think we established there is no Phil Tom. Except for the father, correct? Scott Philip Tom must also go by Phil Tom. Can we get a side-by-side on the two photos?

SlackerMcFly 10-20-2007 07:17 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
I'm not into hosting pics and the whole Photoshop thing, but here is a link:
Link to Philip Tom's page on Poker Pages

N 82 50 24 10-20-2007 07:19 PM

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So what happened with the Seif/stuckingph HHs? To me if those never surface it points a lot more toward Seif's guilt.

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He never emailed me. I'm not sure if he emailed stuckinpgh.

Although, AP support might be slow getting back to him. (You'd think he'd have a connection though)

xTheKidx 10-20-2007 07:20 PM

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I'm not into hosting pics and the whole Photoshop thing, but here is a link:
Link to Philip Tom's page on Poker Pages

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Then the Pics by Schneids and Cat must be the right.
But he doesnt look like "Myspace" Scott

Cruzincat 10-20-2007 07:21 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
OH Yeah. If they are not father and son they are the same person!

adanthar 10-20-2007 07:21 PM

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forwarded from AP:

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Statement almost there - however this is getting completly out of control. HILT HILT TATUM IS COMPLETLEY UNCONECTED WITH THIS CASE - HE HAS NEVER BEEN THE CFO - HIS WIFE AND FAMILY ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS INVESTIGATION - THE COMPANY IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING - I URGE YOU TO CONTACT THE MODS AND HAVE ALL PICTURES REMOVED - PLEASE TRY AND HELP THIS BEYOND THE CALL - AND THEY ARE AS INNOCENT AS ANYONE.

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Given that the sum total of the connection between this guy and the scandal is one account named Oscar133 that won a tournament, I'm inclined to agree with this *so far*. For that reason, I'm gonna lock this thread/make a new one in 5 minutes and keep unrelated pics out of it *for now*. This is subject to change depending on what happens in the next few hours and going forward from there.

N 82 50 24 10-20-2007 07:23 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
I'm pretty sure the myspace Scott is not Scott Tom.

Also...

A guy at AP who does not want to be named (but he is not one of my inside sources) says that Hilt Tatum is not connected with the case and has never been the CFO.

I don't know what to make of that, but I'll assume for now that it is the truth. Obviously Hilt Tatum is a good friend of Scott's and is connected to AP in some way or another if he's moving to Panama, but I don't know how.

Cruzincat 10-20-2007 07:23 PM

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BUT Scott WAS at the wedding!

Spiff 10-20-2007 07:23 PM

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So what happened with the Seif/stuckingph HHs? To me if those never surface it points a lot more toward Seif's guilt.

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http://i22.tinypic.com/2s9ye7o.jpg
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pokerstudAA 10-20-2007 07:23 PM

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Post deleted by Mat Sklansky

N 82 50 24 10-20-2007 07:24 PM

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BUT Scott WAS at the wedding!

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Yea, I mean, if they're flying around Panama/Colombia in private jets together, then they're good enough friends to invite each other to weddings...

Cruzincat 10-20-2007 07:25 PM

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father and son at least

GaryTheGoat 10-20-2007 07:25 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
Guys:

This thread was started last night at 7:20 pm for the purpose of posting Absolute's promised statement.

You guys have cluttered it with about 500 replies and viewed it over 17000 times with investigative crap.

wtf, show a little respect for Absolute. Poor guys probably can't get a post in edgewise. Geez.

gg

ASPoker8 10-20-2007 07:26 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
AP is going to urge us to not post pictures regardless of whether he is involved or not.

However, regardless of whether he actually is involved, I think its correct for us to exhibit some respect and stop posting pictures

pokerstudAA 10-20-2007 07:26 PM

Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal
 
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forwarded from AP:

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Statement almost there - however this is getting completly out of control. HILT HILT TATUM IS COMPLETLEY UNCONECTED WITH THIS CASE - HE HAS NEVER BEEN THE CFO - HIS WIFE AND FAMILY ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS INVESTIGATION - THE COMPANY IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING - I URGE YOU TO CONTACT THE MODS AND HAVE ALL PICTURES REMOVED - PLEASE TRY AND HELP THIS BEYOND THE CALL - AND THEY ARE AS INNOCENT AS ANYONE.

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Given that the sum total of the connection between this guy and the scandal is one account named Oscar133 that won a tournament, I'm inclined to agree with this *so far*. For that reason, I'm gonna lock this thread/make a new one in 5 minutes and keep unrelated pics out of it *for now*. This is subject to change depending on what happens in the next few hours and going forward from there.

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OSCAR HILT
Oscar Hilt = another one of Scott Tom's frat brothers, and was also employed by Absolute, as the CFO maybe? Possibly the account OSCAR133

CFO Oscar Hilt Tatum IV, although it seems that he sometimes goes by a combination of just 2 of those names such as Hilt Tatum IV or Oscar Hilt. This post doesn't have any big juicy dramabomb to reveal, just some facts culled about him from various corners of the internet.

- He is the CFO of Absolute Poker according to this page ( http://www.onlinecasinosandplayers.c...num=1189786905 ) which describes a recent incident where a plane skidded off a runway in Costa Rica. Interestingly, that incident just happened about a month ago, and the website where the article is reprinted (although far from authoritative) refers to Oscar as the CFO and Tom Scott as the CEO of both Absolute and UB (despite AP's protestations that Scott is no longer involved with the company). You can read the original article from nacion.com here, although it's translated from Spanish to English, I think: http://tinyurl.com/36sdcj
Scott Tom and Oscar's new wife (above) were also on that plane with him.
- There have also been references to Scott Tom now living and/or operating/pulling strings out of Panama. Oscar may be there too, evidenced by this page which appears to be a list of individuals granted residency status by the government of Panama, and has a listing for two Americans named "Oscar Hilt Tatum IV" and "Oscar Hilt Tatum III" for April 9th, 2007. (Note that their records don't have any listing for Scott Tom, at least not since Sept 2005 when the database begins.)


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