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AaronL 10-23-2007 01:47 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
someone pointed out yesterday,when I posted traffic statistics, that there was variance based on the days of the week... looks like they took another hit yesterday (using last three Sundays from pokersitescout)


Oct 7 @ 7:31 PM 2447
Oct 14 @ 7:39 PM 2352
Oct 21 @ 7:50 PM 2190

PartyGirlUK 10-23-2007 01:48 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
I agree with Druff 100%

ikestoys 10-23-2007 01:48 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
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I don't know when their big NL games were added, but I think they are also a relatively recent development.

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For a long time the biggest game was 10/25 game with 5k max buyin. In ~April they added 15/30 (6k max) and dropped 10/25. Over the summer they added 25/50 (10k max).

ikestoys 10-23-2007 01:49 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
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I agree with Druff 100%

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I was thinking it, glad someone else said it, b/c i didn't feel like getting flamed again.

DEAD ON IMPACT 10-23-2007 01:50 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
So i just called the VIP number at AP to try to talk to someone in management and first off the guy I spoke with was very short and seemed quite rude. I do finally get a phone conversation however with the head of management for the sales department tomorrow morning and will be asking several questions regarding payments to players etc.

If there are some questions you guys would like me to ask pm me or write a post. I would assume like most of the workers he will stay away from responding to who, what,where, and how this situation came about but I will try to dig out some info....

AaronL 10-23-2007 01:50 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
also interested is ultimatebet's traffic hit 3000 both the last two sundays... a total it hasn't hit any other day in the posted results (going back to Jul. 23rd) I wonder how many players transfered rolls over to ultimate from ap...

GaryTheGoat 10-23-2007 01:52 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
You are profuse.

Cocaine addiction is a insidious, progressive disease which impairs ones judgment.

gg

Matfrid 10-23-2007 01:52 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - there was no superuser account
 
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There was no superuser account.

Well, at least there didn't have to be one. There are a number of methods by which hole cards theoretically could be read without there neeeding to be a poker account with superuser abilities. <cut rest of post>

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Yes, see my previous posts in these threads that give examples of how the exploit could be done. Then you'll also see that some of your ideas are unrealistic, but I'll not waste space with it. I know most that read this couldn't care less about the technical details, and that was really my point: keep calling it a super-user account, folks. Regardless of how it was done, someone could see the hole cards.

rothko 10-23-2007 01:52 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
dd,

but the 7mil didn't have to come from the high limit games.

and the actual dollar figure isn't as important as the notion the absolute has been cheating its customers for years.

apefish 10-23-2007 01:53 AM

Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens
 
Druff- the number did sound insanely high.

What if instead of abusing superuser for that amount over time the "source" meant they stole that total amount in some way.
If they have superuser capacity and the ability to block an inquiry into it- surely someone had the ability to simply move money around within the site and permit cashouts during the same time period.

Just a thought.

Most of it could have been a pure skim.


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