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Veecee 11-05-2007 03:22 AM

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Rumour has it that ATL wants Kaberle and is about to part with Hossa, who hates it in ATL.

Hmmmmmm....giving up our best D-man on a crappy D-corps + other pieces for a 100pt franchise player entering his prime.

tercet 11-05-2007 03:24 AM

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Rumour has it that ATL wants Kaberle and is about to part with Hossa, who hates it in ATL.

Hmmmmmm....giving up our best D-man on a crappy D-corps + other pieces for a 100pt franchise player entering his prime.

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Where did you here this?

Triumph36 11-05-2007 03:26 AM

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hossa isn't signed through next year. kaberle is on a long-term deal (with a no-trade afaik).

wouldn't be surprised if this comes to nothing.

Veecee 11-05-2007 03:28 AM

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Rumour has it that ATL wants Kaberle and is about to part with Hossa, who hates it in ATL.

Hmmmmmm....giving up our best D-man on a crappy D-corps + other pieces for a 100pt franchise player entering his prime.

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Where did you here this?

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One of my friends who is a die hard Leafs fan told me. Obv not a credible source, but I did start off with "rumour has it".

He said it would probably be a multiplayer deal revolving around Hossa, Kaberle and Raycroft.

Veecee 11-05-2007 03:30 AM

Re: ***Official 07-08 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread***
 
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hossa isn't signed through next year. kaberle is on a long-term deal (with a no-trade afaik).

wouldn't be surprised if this comes to nothing.

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True, but even if he was a rental and it did happen, getting his and Sundin's contracts off the books would be sweeeeeeeeeet.

Golden_Rhino 11-05-2007 03:32 AM

Re: ***Official 07-08 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread***
 
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Rumour has it that ATL wants Kaberle and is about to part with Hossa, who hates it in ATL.

Hmmmmmm....giving up our best D-man on a crappy D-corps + other pieces for a 100pt franchise player entering his prime.

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I would make this deal. It would hurt to lose Kaberle, but damn, Hossa is good.

Triumph36 11-05-2007 03:39 AM

Re: ***Official 07-08 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread***
 
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hossa isn't signed through next year. kaberle is on a long-term deal (with a no-trade afaik).

wouldn't be surprised if this comes to nothing.

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True, but even if he was a rental and it did happen, getting his and Sundin's contracts off the books would be sweeeeeeeeeet.

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uh, no.

next year's free agent market sucks and will get worse as the season goes on. heatley's already off the market. hossa will be the biggest name.

kaberle is a top 10 D in the NHL - more valuable than marian hossa, who will be overpriced without a doubt. if heatley got 7, he will want 8 to 8.5.

Veecee 11-05-2007 03:45 AM

Re: ***Official 07-08 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread***
 
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hossa isn't signed through next year. kaberle is on a long-term deal (with a no-trade afaik).

wouldn't be surprised if this comes to nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]


True, but even if he was a rental and it did happen, getting his and Sundin's contracts off the books would be sweeeeeeeeeet.

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uh, no.

next year's free agent market sucks and will get worse as the season goes on. heatley's already off the market. hossa will be the biggest name.

kaberle is a top 10 D in the NHL - more valuable than marian hossa, who will be overpriced without a doubt. if heatley got 7, he will want 8 to 8.5.

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I would hate giving up Kaberle too, I'm just excited by possible cap space and a much needed overhaul.

stealthcow 11-05-2007 04:44 AM

Re: ***Official 07-08 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread***
 
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hossa isn't signed through next year. kaberle is on a long-term deal (with a no-trade afaik).

wouldn't be surprised if this comes to nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]


True, but even if he was a rental and it did happen, getting his and Sundin's contracts off the books would be sweeeeeeeeeet.

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uh, no.

next year's free agent market sucks and will get worse as the season goes on. heatley's already off the market. hossa will be the biggest name.

kaberle is a top 10 D in the NHL - more valuable than marian hossa, who will be overpriced without a doubt. if heatley got 7, he will want 8 to 8.5.

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I would only consider Kaberle to be a top 10 dman if you include how much of a bargain his contract is (only 4 mill a year).

The leafs roster is such a mangled mess. They keep getting stuck with players that are too old, but still get paid a lot. I mean, I think Blakes a v. good player and 4mill/yr isn't that bad, but 5 years? he's not going to age like sundin. he's too small. he's gonna lose a step and belong on the 3rd line for the last 2 yrs of that contract. Mccabe and Kubina are bad. I doubt they can unload either of them, which means the leafs D is gonna suck for a while. They also do boneheaded things like resign "fan favorite" darcy tucker.

On the bright side, the leafs do have some young players who are stepping it up. I think ponikarovsky is underrated, antropov out of nowhere has been playing like a young eric lindros, wellwood is good (too pass happy but good), and stajan and steen are solid players.

supermangina 11-05-2007 11:19 AM

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I stand to make $300 ($50*4 and $100*1) off optimistic Leafs fans. These 5 of my friends all thought they'd be better than the Flyers. No dice!

I can smell the green already.


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