Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

Lol, so it looks like Aba gave one example of overbet bluffing with that same line and he has probably only done it once this entire month.
The 2nd example doesn't count because the bet size is so small. The river bet is only 2/3 of the pot. Maybe I'll turn up my bluff weight to 10% for that particular hand but that still makes this hand a fairly easy fold.

And for those saying he should automatically bet the flop, he's going to get exploited if he c-bets that type of board too often with that type of hand.

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

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for those of you who don't understand what aba's post is about, he's basically saying that he is willing to double check-raise in spots where the other player's hand is fairly face-up and a one pair-ish type hand

edited to add also that he will follow up w/ a strong river bluff...

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i'm sure aba has the ability to do this. i'm sure one of his other skills though is creating the illusion that he does this far far more than he actually does...

in the long run i dont think you can profitably call here against his range. that's irrelevant of course if you know something we don't know because you're at the table and better able to gauge the flow of the game, everyone's mood, etc...

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

I would try first and formost to read what his bet is saying. Plz, plz get a read here. He can do all these things with every type of hand, but look what his bet's saying.

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

Now that I saw results, wow vnh !! It make perfect sense for Aba to over bet. There's an other reason for that bet, not only it look like "it want to fold him so he'll see that as a bluff and call with a K", but it protect him from being bluff !! say he bets 2/3 and WL pushes... he's in a tough spot...

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

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Now that I saw results, wow vnh !! It make perfect sense for Aba to over bet. There's an other reason for that bet, not only it look like "it want to fold him so he'll see that as a bluff and call with a K", but it protect him from being bluff !! say he bets 2/3 and WL pushes... he's in a tough spot...

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phil are you on crack?

i ask this because i think you're a pretty sick player and that last statement blew my mind...

or maybe it was a joke. i dont even know anymore

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

Results were never posted, were they?

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

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Lol, so it looks like Aba gave one example of overbet bluffing with that same line and he has probably only done it once this entire month.
The 2nd example doesn't count because the bet size is so small. The river bet is only 2/3 of the pot. Maybe I'll turn up my bluff weight to 10% for that particular hand but that still makes this hand a fairly easy fold.

And for those saying he should automatically bet the flop, he's going to get exploited if he c-bets that type of board too often with that type of hand.

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Mr. Tears,

(1) how often qualifies as too often?

(2) It seems very relevant that sbrugby rarely calls with a low-mid suited connector in the sb here. Considering this and that hero loses this pot the vast majority of the time that he checks behind on this flop, shouldn't he be c betting hands like KJ most of the time? I think you may be underestimating how often aba has a suited broadway type hand vs a mid-big pair?

-Jeff

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

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Results were never posted, were they?

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Go up to Daddy Warbucks' reply, and highlight the invisible text.

I think this hand was masterfully played by aba, and well played by whitelime, too. Turn and river came almost perfect-perfect for Brian.

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results?

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In white:

<font color="white">Whitelime called, Aba showed AA </font>

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results??

ps; aba had AA?

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lets play hu aba? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 200/400 hand vs. sbrubgy 6 handed
 

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Now that I saw results, wow vnh !! It make perfect sense for Aba to over bet. There's an other reason for that bet, not only it look like "it want to fold him so he'll see that as a bluff and call with a K", but it protect him from being bluff !! say he bets 2/3 and WL pushes... he's in a tough spot...

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phil are you on crack?

i ask this because i think you're a pretty sick player and that last statement blew my mind...

or maybe it was a joke. i dont even know anymore

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pot on the river is 16k, effective stacks left around 40k
2/3rds pot is 10.5k

is it a snap call with AA if WL shoves for ~30k more?