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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ike, I didn't mean to be a dick. Just wanted to point out that your decision to not go back might be easier and prove more correct if you consider that just as many fish as sharks are going to leave because of this scandal. If not a greater percentage. [/ QUOTE ] you are assuming that this info is equally distributed among players, this is obv not true. [/ QUOTE ] What percentage of 5-10+ players do you think will be unaware of the situation in a month? I would say 25% of them not knowing would be generous. [/ QUOTE ] well considering I'm looking at who is playing 5/10+ right now and its all fish, I'm thinking youre wrong |
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What a damn shame that Oscar Hilt Tatum's mother in law has to be associated with this creep (and his friends) for the rest of her life. Shame on all of you (That's you Oscar...and your frat Buddies). http://www.sptimes.com/2006/webspeci...de/index.shtml [/ QUOTE ] "St. Petersburg Times art critic Lennie Bennett's chronicling her adventures as mother of the bride. Her daughter will marry Oscar Hilt Tatum IV on Dec. 16" nice. |
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[ QUOTE ] The PPA is a political organization designed to fight for our legal right to play poker. I do not believe they are intended to be an industry watchdog. Do you think they should take over the role of the Nevada Gaming Commission as well? [/ QUOTE ] "WHO IS THE POKER PLAYERS ALLIANCE? The Poker Players Alliance is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game, ensure its integrity, and, most importantly, to protect poker players' rights." That's from their own webpage. If they are simply a political lobbying organization, they should say so, and people paying their dues should be informed that the PPA is not concerned with anything in poker besides the game's legality in the US. I guarantee you that the vast majority of the 800,000+ members thought they were joining an organization that would have stepped up and intervened in a major, widespread matter like this. [/ QUOTE ] Umm, they are lobbying for out right to play Dan, not to be a regulatory agency |
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Few Things:
1. Greg Raymer is a big member in the PPA. Why has he not posted on here about this issue or gotten the PPA involved??? I realize he is also employed by Stars, but making sure that Absolute is held fully responsible should be as big a deal to Stars and FTP than to us. The reputation of online poker in the publics eye is on trial here. 2. Honestly we will never know the whole truth. The question becomes this: Are 2+2 players going to sacrifice some potential money that they earned in rakeback/bonuses in order to show Absolute that we mean business. As people have noted over and over, ever since this happened, the amount of players at Absolute has not decreased. Until we take the moral high ground and show AP that we have the ability to hurt them financially, why should the come clean? So its up to everybody to decide, is it about the money or about a clean game? |
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Someone go dig up that article about Scott Tom's first airplane mishap -- the one where the plane skidded off the runway. I believe that occurred on September 4th.
The cheating is known to have occurred from August 20th to September 16th. September 4th is right in the middle of that timespan. I believe the article (from a Costa Rican newspaper) details Scott Tom's plane landing in Costa Rica at the time of the mishap. Therefore, he wasn't in Panama the entire time this was happening. Find the article again (it was posted here before), and there's your proof that AP is lying. |
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Someone go dig up that article about Scott Tom's first airplane mishap -- the one where the plane skidded off the runway. I believe that occurred on September 4th. The cheating is known to have occurred from August 20th to September 16th. September 4th is right in the middle of that timespan. I believe the article (from a Costa Rican newspaper) details Scott Tom's plane landing in Costa Rica at the time of the mishap. Therefore, he wasn't in Panama the entire time this was happening. Find the article again (it was posted here before), and there's your proof that AP is lying. [/ QUOTE ] may I just ask: what difference does it make if there's PROOF that AP is lying? Who is going to do What with this proof? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ike, I didn't mean to be a dick. Just wanted to point out that your decision to not go back might be easier and prove more correct if you consider that just as many fish as sharks are going to leave because of this scandal. If not a greater percentage. [/ QUOTE ] you are assuming that this info is equally distributed among players, this is obv not true. [/ QUOTE ] What percentage of 5-10+ players do you think will be unaware of the situation in a month? I would say 25% of them not knowing would be generous. [/ QUOTE ] well considering I'm looking at who is playing 5/10+ right now and its all fish, I'm thinking youre wrong [/ QUOTE ] If somebody were going to shill for getting players back to AP i think they would do best to use replys similar to yours. I'm wondering how somebody who uses EV calculations for their decisions as you do, would see benefit in constantly promoting the good qualities of such a fishy site on one of the most popular threads in one of the most popular poker forums. Now i'm being a dick. |
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[ QUOTE ] The PPA is a political organization designed to fight for our legal right to play poker. I do not believe they are intended to be an industry watchdog. Do you think they should take over the role of the Nevada Gaming Commission as well? [/ QUOTE ] "WHO IS THE POKER PLAYERS ALLIANCE? The Poker Players Alliance is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game, ensure its integrity, and, most importantly, to protect poker players' rights." That's from their own webpage. If they are simply a political lobbying organization, they should say so, and people paying their dues should be informed that the PPA is not concerned with anything in poker besides the game's legality in the US. I guarantee you that the vast majority of the 800,000+ members thought they were joining an organization that would have stepped up and intervened in a major, widespread matter like this. [/ QUOTE ] The name of the game for everyone involved in Poker is to keep the gravy train going without going to jail. To think that anyone would look out for others is absurd. Poker is about taking other people's money. Not many people are willing to give up a gravy train in order to help someone else out. Demand refunds of your memberships, but do not expect people, many of whom have probably cheated at poker before, to take on a case that will bring negative publicity to their hopeful gravy train. It is all about money......PPA will do nothing substantial. The game is poker and the name is MONEY. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ike, I didn't mean to be a dick. Just wanted to point out that your decision to not go back might be easier and prove more correct if you consider that just as many fish as sharks are going to leave because of this scandal. If not a greater percentage. [/ QUOTE ] you are assuming that this info is equally distributed among players, this is obv not true. [/ QUOTE ] What percentage of 5-10+ players do you think will be unaware of the situation in a month? I would say 25% of them not knowing would be generous. [/ QUOTE ] well considering I'm looking at who is playing 5/10+ right now and its all fish, I'm thinking youre wrong [/ QUOTE ] If somebody were going to shill for getting players back to AP i think they would do best to use replys similar to yours. I'm wondering how somebody who uses EV calculations for their decisions as you do, would see benefit in constantly promoting the good qualities of such a fishy site on one of the most popular threads in one of the most popular poker forums. Now i'm being a dick. [/ QUOTE ] Youre an idiot, I'm probably not going back to AP despite "my EV calculations." Learn how to read, seriously. Also, continue blaming me for telling the truth. My posts in this thread will have 0 effect on anyone going back to abso or not. |
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I know that OSCAR133 is innocent, and I haven't even seen any of the relevant data. Why? Let me familiarize you with what I call the "Jessica Simpson lie": A guy tells his buddies that he just had sex with Jessica Simpson last night. Naturally, his buddies don't beleive him. "Call her up right now and let's hear you talk to her about last night," demands one of them. The guy makes a lame excuse as to why he can't. "Okay, then tell us where the two of you went, so we can ask workers around there if they saw you with Jessica Simpson," another friend demands. The guy stutters and stammers, and finally weakly says that they didn't go out in public. "Surely you must have a picture of you two together. Maybe an answering machine message from her? Maybe at least an e-mail or text message from her?" The guy again looks very uncomfortable, and says that he never took a picture with her, and that he deleted all the messages he ever got from her. Finally, one of his friends says, "I bet you can't even show us the open box of condoms you used last night!" Immediately the guy races to his desk drawer, pulls out an open box of condoms, and says, "SEE! Told you I had sex with Jessica Simpson!" The moral of the story? Liars pounce on any "proof" someone asks for that happens to match their story. Back to the AP situation. OSCAR133 has been accused on 2+2 with some very circumstantial evidence. While AP has been cryptic and difficult when it comes to obtaining evidence that could truly solve the matter, they were happy to offer anyone to come down to their office and see the account details of OSCAR133. Absolute Poker is proud of OSCAR133 because he is not a cheater, and is not connected to anyone in the company. If OSCAR133 comes away clean, it makes their other lies seem true. OSCAR133 is an open box of condoms. Stop asking about him. [/ QUOTE ] POTY IMO |
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Oh, and don't believe this BS about third-party software. This is a carefully crafted lie to make it appear that their normally-secure system was cracked by a techincally gifted insider with knowledge on how to do it.
That's not what happened. A superuser account (most likely #363, perhaps others) was created a long time ago -- before AP even opened -- for testing purposes. Instead of disabling it like any responsible company would do, Scott Tom the meglomaniac decided he wanted it to remain open so he could have access to it. This account was eventually used during the scandal, and perhaps at other times beforehand. This was obviously the most blatant and high-profile usage of it, which led to the public discovering it. This is the simplest explanation, and it's the one that both makes the most sense and corresponds properly with the evidence we have. AJ Green is not a programmer. Scott Tom is not a programmer. I guarantee you that none of these frat boys are technically competent enough to compromise the system on their own -- even with insider knowledge. This was definitely done through the use of a simple interface that was designed a long time ago. The reason AP is lying about this is because their current story rests the blame on the shoulders of one "consultant", rather than the entire management of AP for letting a superuser account exist on the system for over 3 years. It also allows them to continue to stand by their earlier repeated denials of a superuser account existing. This tall tale allows them to claim they never knew this sort of thing was possible. |
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People who want to see a criminal investigation would probably do better contacting someone like the FBI cybercrime unit than the Costa Rican police.
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Quote - The KGC was set up by Norton. It did nothing while players were cheated. One of the detectives here called the KGC and reported that he was pleasantly surprised by how seriously they seemed to take his report of cheating. He said they not only asked many questions but asked the RIGHT questions. Soon after that the KGC ordered an independent investigation. I am not aware of a single instance of misbehavior attributed to the KGC other than they permit gambling on their reservation, contrary to the view of the government of Canada. The Kahwanake point out that they are an independent nation, pursuant to an agreement with the French surrounding them in the seventeenth century, and can permit or not permit gambling on their own land, no matter what Canada thinks about it. [/ QUOTE ] I guess if you forgot about ProPoker and GoldenPalace blackjack then you'd possibly have some kind of point here. Although I doubt it. <font color="white"> Lori</font> |
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I found some information of the companies that run absolute HERE Pretty Interesting read.
Key points about Absolutes Ownership: 1. Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG From Absolutes website:[ QUOTE ] “Absolute Poker and this website is solely owned and operated by Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, Route 138, Kahnawake, Quebec J0L 1B0. Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG is owned by a Mohawk of Kahnawake, and is operated from the sovereign nation of the Mohawks of Kahnawake, located near Montreal Quebec. [/ QUOTE ] The Ultimate Bet web site shows the same (or similar) statement. 2. Blast Off Limited From Poker Scout:[ QUOTE ] Poker Scout provides the following about Absolute Poker: Owner: Blast Off Limited (private company) Headquarters: Malta Server Location: Kahnawake, Canada [/ QUOTE ] The Malta Registry of Companies is HERE but I cannot find Blast Off, Ltd. Blast Off Ltd, purchased Excapsa Software (Ultimate Bet) in Oct., 2006, in a five-year planned transaction totaling $130 million. Blast Off Ltd Controls ten SITES: (10) Bet21.com, Benefitpoker, Cardplayer, DevilfishPoker.com, DV8 Poker, Green Tie Poker, Magic Palace Poker , UltimateBet*, UltimatePoker* , UpperClassPoker Network and Sites 3. Absolute Entertainment, SA [ QUOTE ] I also came across another name: ”Absolute Poker is a downloadable poker room and casino using Proprietary Software licensed in Kahnawake. It is one of 2 online gaming sites owned by Absolute Entertainment, SA.” [/ QUOTE ] Absolute Entertainment S A Address: C/O Wendy Y Oxley, Belize City Country: Belize Industry: Offices of Holding Companies, NEC Line of business: Holding Companies, Nec, Nsk Dunn & Bradstreet Internation Business Information Report 4. Innovative Data Solutions We also know about Innovative Data Solutions - a Costa Rican Company somehow related to Absoulte Poker. This is the name displayed at the front of the gambling911 photos of Absolute's Offices and was confirmed by Schneids. INNOVATIVE DATA SOLUTIONS: IDS Technical Consulting Oficentro de Sebana San Jose, Costa Rica Telephone - 011-506-520-0525 Email - info@idsworld.net Innovative Data Solutions SBO 306, 7333 NW 54th Street Miami, Florida 33166 United States 6786312244 |
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[ QUOTE ] ok i'm only going to say this one more time, and if i get ignored i'll quit, but can someone PLEASE tell me why these guys can't be charged through either the canadian or the costa rican legal system? [/ QUOTE ] ok i lied. guys, if this has already been addessed please just link me or something, but am i missing something obvious here? canadian legal system. costa rican legal system. INTERPOL. not one of these are viable options? adanthar you're a lawyer- could you let me know about this? sorry if i'm cluttering, but at least it's not ike and someone having the same argument 50 million times over. [/ QUOTE ] Sure the authorities of Costa Rica "could" press charges. But they probably won't. Same goes for Canada. Good enough for you? |
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Hi I just read about this in a news page. I am wondering did any of these accounts play the $500 buy in tourny? I seen some weird calls and raises when i was playing the tourny abou 3 to 4 weeks ago.
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Blast Off Ltd Controls ten SITES: (10) Bet21.com, Benefitpoker, Cardplayer, DevilfishPoker.com, DV8 Poker, Green Tie Poker, Magic Palace Poker , UltimateBet*, UltimatePoker* , UpperClassPoker [/ QUOTE ] They control CardPlayer Magazine??? |
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They control CardPlayer Magazine??? [/ QUOTE ] and now you know why Cardplayer never printed anything worth printing |
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The Malta Registry that PokerStud referenced above seems to be having database issues now but I did find entries for Blast Off in the google cache:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:0Ykz...;cd=1&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Annual Return C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change amongst Company Secretary C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change amongst Company Secretary C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change in Registered Office http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kCcz...;cd=2&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Notification of Changes amongst directors C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Transfer/Transmission of Shares C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Alterations to the Memorandum and Articles http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:L_hh...;cd=3&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 4/6/2007 Notification of Changes amongst directors |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ok i'm only going to say this one more time, and if i get ignored i'll quit, but can someone PLEASE tell me why these guys can't be charged through either the canadian or the costa rican legal system? [/ QUOTE ] ok i lied. guys, if this has already been addessed please just link me or something, but am i missing something obvious here? canadian legal system. costa rican legal system. INTERPOL. not one of these are viable options? adanthar you're a lawyer- could you let me know about this? sorry if i'm cluttering, but at least it's not ike and someone having the same argument 50 million times over. [/ QUOTE ] Sure the authorities of Costa Rica "could" press charges. But they probably won't. Same goes for Canada. Good enough for you? [/ QUOTE ] i dont understand the active criticism against people trying to get these guys prosecuted. No one has anything thing to lose by trying, why actively dissuade it? |
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[ QUOTE ] They control CardPlayer Magazine??? [/ QUOTE ] and now you know why Cardplayer never printed anything worth printing [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, but this may just be Cardplayer poker, which is a free play skin of UB that they offer. |
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[ QUOTE ] They control CardPlayer Magazine??? [/ QUOTE ] and now you know why Cardplayer never printed anything worth printing [/ QUOTE ] I dont think Cardplayer Magazine is owned by Blast Off, Ltd. There is perhaps an online gambling site called cardplayer [edit: apparently it is a UB Skin] I know Cardplayer Magazine, in 2005 and possibly later, was owned the Shulmans as the majority owners with poker pros Phil Hellmuth, Daniel Negreanu, Todd Brunson, Jennifer Harman and actors Danny and Chris Masterson as well as Laura Prepon. |
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Dan, Plane Crash Article: http://www.onlinecasinosandplayers.c...num=1189786905 [/ QUOTE ] That was the second plane crash, not the first. Also, please link the actual article next time, and not your website with a copy/paste job. Thanks. |
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Do not let AP spin anymore. Lots of evidence points in the direction of Scott Tom. This guy should go to jail. He is involved....though they will blame it on his "friend". They are going to try to fit their excuses into impossibly small holes....don't believe it for a minute.
To get an idea of the absurdity that is about to come, check out this great comment someone made about the Jon Benet Ramsey case. "Right now, it may be a good time to stand back and state what is rather apparent: either the Ramsey's were the killers or assistants in the murder, or they have been the victims of some rather hi-tech silent midgets with no footprints". Keep it simple. |
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The Malta Registry that PokerStud referenced above seems to be having database issues now but I did find entries for Blast Off in the google cache: http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:0Ykz...;cd=1&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Annual Return C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change amongst Company Secretary C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change amongst Company Secretary C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 10/7/2007 Change in Registered Office http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kCcz...;cd=2&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Notification of Changes amongst directors C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Transfer/Transmission of Shares C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 26/4/2007 Alterations to the Memorandum and Articles http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:L_hh...;cd=3&gl=ca C 37734 BLAST OFF LIMITED 4/6/2007 Notification of Changes amongst directors [/ QUOTE ] You can also find their bank account numbers if you look a little further. There is some wiring instructions to send entry fees for some tourney in St. Kitts that they are hosting or did host. I found it a few days ago and don't have the exact link. |
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Do not let AP spin anymore. Lots of evidence points in the direction of Scott Tom. This guy should go to jail. He is involved....though they will blame it on his "friend". They are going to try to fit their excuses into impossibly small holes....don't believe it for a minute. To get an idea of the absurdity that is about to come, check out this great comment someone made about the Jon Benet Ramsey case. "Right now, it may be a good time to stand back and state what is rather apparent: either the Ramsey's were the killers or assistants in the murder, or they have been the victims of some rather hi-tech silent midgets with no footprints". Keep it simple. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, bringing the ramsey case into this... that takes true idiocy, I must admit I loled IRL. |
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Don't we have information/rumors/speculation that Absolute was founded with money from some of the Frat guy's fathers?
We do know Scott Tom comes from a wealthy family and also that Oscar Tatum Hilt, IV's father is a highly respected dentist. Obviously they have family money with a fancy wedding in France. There is a strong chance these families are shareholders in some of these shell corporations. |
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I don't know if this has been posted yet, but a friend of mine, Dan Michalski, runs a poker blog called Pokerati based here in Dallas. He got the chance to get the first face to face interview with Mark Seif after this scandal stuff broke. There's a link to it in this article...
http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-...poker-scandal/ |
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[ QUOTE ] Dan, Plane Crash Article: http://www.onlinecasinosandplayers.c...num=1189786905 [/ QUOTE ] That was the second plane crash, not the first. Also, please link the actual article next time, and not your website with a copy/paste job. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] BTW, that is the same link that I found back on the 16th, and the one that is directly linked in google. For some reason it comes up as a print preview type page. |
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Yeah, I just copied and pasted from the old thread. I didn't realize there were two crashes.
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[ QUOTE ] Do not let AP spin anymore. Lots of evidence points in the direction of Scott Tom. This guy should go to jail. He is involved....though they will blame it on his "friend". They are going to try to fit their excuses into impossibly small holes....don't believe it for a minute. To get an idea of the absurdity that is about to come, check out this great comment someone made about the Jon Benet Ramsey case. "Right now, it may be a good time to stand back and state what is rather apparent: either the Ramsey's were the killers or assistants in the murder, or they have been the victims of some rather hi-tech silent midgets with no footprints". Keep it simple. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, bringing the ramsey case into this... that takes true idiocy, I must admit I loled IRL. [/ QUOTE ] Only an idiot would call another an idiot for posting a quote from one of the most obvious cases of spin. You will be back playing at AP just like you said. One day you will lose to a cheater and then you can laugh at yourself for being an idiot. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do not let AP spin anymore. Lots of evidence points in the direction of Scott Tom. This guy should go to jail. He is involved....though they will blame it on his "friend". They are going to try to fit their excuses into impossibly small holes....don't believe it for a minute. To get an idea of the absurdity that is about to come, check out this great comment someone made about the Jon Benet Ramsey case. "Right now, it may be a good time to stand back and state what is rather apparent: either the Ramsey's were the killers or assistants in the murder, or they have been the victims of some rather hi-tech silent midgets with no footprints". Keep it simple. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, bringing the ramsey case into this... that takes true idiocy, I must admit I loled IRL. [/ QUOTE ] Only an idiot would call another an idiot for posting a quote from one of the most obvious cases of spin. You will be back playing at AP just like you said. One day you will lose to a cheater and then you can laugh at yourself for being an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] hey at least i can read |
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Oscar isn't involved because Absolute Poker says so?
Norton owns 100% of AP because AP says so? C'mon on guys. These people don't know how to tell the truth. Let's stop pretending they've learned in the past 24 hours. |
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does anyone know if any the user accounts was playing the $500 buy in tourny's ??????
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Oscar isn't involved because Absolute Poker says so? Norton owns 100% of AP because AP says so? C'mon on people. These people don't know how to tell the truth. Let's stop pretending they've learned in the past 24 hours. [/ QUOTE ] He's not involved because we have no solid evidence that he is. Jeez conspirtards, settle down |
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The Malta Registry of Companies is HERE but I cannot find Blast Off, Ltd. [/ QUOTE ] It was located elsewhere on that site: BLAST OFF LIMITED C 37734 VINCENTI BUILDINGS, SUITE 392, 14/19, STRAIT STREET, VALLETTA It appears you can become a registered user, and then request documents which show the officers names. |
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Hey Ike you ungrateful [censored], these "conspirtards" are the reason you are going to get a rebate on your losses.
How about showing some appreciation and resign your role as the AP court appointed defense attorney on the forums. |
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