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chicken10der 09-07-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
you cannot unregister, no button for it, no iron man website link, no e-mailing support. they'll sit you in and blind you out.

on the plus side, one person that did that a couple months ago made the money.

LifeTilt 09-07-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I just typed out a huge post and then when I tried to submit, it deleted. [censored].

Cliffs notes:
Roon's list of NL100 "players" is incomplete and 25% a joke.
Vizer - who would you add/delete?
Welcome Roon and Cardsman.
UnSmart, I thought you were on 2+2 for much longer than since 08/13/07.
If Ron Burgundy would reveal himself, we could all be one happy family.

VeryUnSmart 09-07-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I dont think you can unregister for it after the 1st of the month

Ryanj37 09-08-2007 02:33 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Damns looks like I have to get up early and play it then.

SimaoMacaco 09-08-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
the iron man only affects rakeback if you have the freeroll (not so free roll on rakeback) selected as your monthly option. Sign up for the medals instead of the iron man tournament. You can do this through promotions webpages.

chicken10der 09-08-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
even with the "rakeback cost" the freeroll is still the way to go if you get gold/iron and think you will be available to play. i've cashed for at least $120 in all of them that i've played without even paying attention, and the rb cost is like $32 for iron. that extra $88 is worth way more than the extra 100 medals (worth about $20 with the more expensive iron man store stuff).

NFuego20 09-10-2007 03:40 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Yep, the Ironman yesterday had 302 players and a $30k prize pool. Based on that it's roughly a $100 value which you get for $27 if my math or understanding is correct.

I too have done well in these, although with 300 players instead of 200 like it used to be, it has gotten more difficult. I've cashed 4 out of 6 times if I recall, including barely getting into the money yesterday for $120. Not playing in it because it affects rakeback is extremely -ev. If you could enter a $100 buy in tourney for $27, wouldn't you want to as much as possible?

SimaoMacaco 09-10-2007 05:26 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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Yep, the Ironman yesterday had 302 players and a $30k prize pool. Based on that it's roughly a $100 value which you get for $27 if my math or understanding is correct.

I too have done well in these, although with 300 players instead of 200 like it used to be, it has gotten more difficult. I've cashed 4 out of 6 times if I recall, including barely getting into the money yesterday for $120. Not playing in it because it affects rakeback is extremely -ev. If you could enter a $100 buy in tourney for $27, wouldn't you want to as much as possible?

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However, if like me you have time constraints selecting medals and saving the entry fee is better. To each there own. =D The math behind playing is compelling however.

Ryanj37 09-10-2007 05:38 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Yea ill try not to drink too much and oversleep the freeroll again next month.

chicken10der 09-10-2007 05:43 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
200nl reg dengbanggang won this months iron, so 'grats to him.

vizer02 09-10-2007 10:39 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
What did it payout? I'm one of the idiots who get the medals instead because I hate donkaments, but the medals aren't worth crap.

chicken10der 09-10-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
$5400. plus the 4-person $5k sng entry, and a shot at the $100k heads up matches if he wins that.

bestbluff 09-10-2007 02:21 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
It is funny to see how many mention dobieatwar as one of the best. He is pretty good, I admit. However, I love sitting 1 or 2 seats to his left. He steals with almost any two from button and folds to a reraise. Some nights I have reraised him every single time he raises from late pos. He folds 9/10 times.

I aggree that 17013 is amazing. He is by far the best lag NL100 player I have played.

What do you guys think of players like BS Manta (I mostly played him at NL50 but he has played at NL100 recently) and ggandgl?

LifeTilt 09-10-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I have never heard of BS Manta. ggandgl is good, just like everyone else. I enjoy playing with 17013; take an hour or so and analyze his play over the past 2 months - you'll see a trend. BuckyLastard is running really hot right now, at least according to my PT. I am still of the opinion that 95% of us just trade money, day in and day out, with our profits coming from the weekend warriors and drunk people. After 6 consecutive $3000+ months at NL100, I only made ~$1000 in August, so maybe I'm just being cynical.

As far as Ironman, I get medals and buy points - I'm near 300,000. I want the 400,000 plasma, but it seems like it is taking forever. Anyone else close?

vhunter 09-10-2007 05:13 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
hey guys, just want to pop in say hi to everyone.

for 17013
I had limp in with some decent hands against 17013 when he does have position. He cold raised with any two. I got him a few times, he had never mess with me again.

VeryUnSmart 09-10-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
why do people think dobieatwar is good ??

and on the days where he is a min raising fool, just 3bet them every time... he'll fold 95% of the time

LifeTilt 09-10-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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why do people think dobieatwar is good ??

and on the days where he is a min raising fool, just 3bet them every time... he'll fold 95% of the time

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Obviously he has done some sort of cost/benefit analysis to this approach and has determined that the benefits outweigh the costs. He wins at a pretty good clip, or else he would have quit or went busto a while back. He relies on his superior post-flop play to take down pots. I don't see why you think it's so terrible that he folds to 3 bets against tighter opponents. In pots where he isn't 3 bet, his hand is fairly well disguised and he has a firm grasp of odds such that he makes it just slightly -EV for you to make certain calls based upon his reads, which are normally spot on. The guy would have had 8 consecutive $3500+ months if he didn't take periodic [and sometimes unsuccessful] shots at $1/2, $2/4 and $3/6.

Playing 15/6/2 may be your comfortable or ideal style, but there really is no unexploitable style. It is when your superior play and great decision making compliment your perceived style that you see steady, substantial profit.

vhunter 09-10-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
unsmart I agree, I had 3x reraised dobieatwar so many times, he just fold so fast. other day I just cold called his min crap raise, and crushed him 6 hands straight after I got so sick of the dumb play. either limp or raise please.
also I agree he is a min raising fool, I hate min raise [censored]---excuse my language.

And I think I did play with u too unsmart right?

oober 09-10-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
You know guys this thread wasnt supposed to get out to the masses. Meh.

Welcome some of ya to the forum, I look foreward to playing against ya this fall when I have time...

NFuego20 09-10-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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Yep, the Ironman yesterday had 302 players and a $30k prize pool. Based on that it's roughly a $100 value which you get for $27 if my math or understanding is correct.

I too have done well in these, although with 300 players instead of 200 like it used to be, it has gotten more difficult. I've cashed 4 out of 6 times if I recall, including barely getting into the money yesterday for $120. Not playing in it because it affects rakeback is extremely -ev. If you could enter a $100 buy in tourney for $27, wouldn't you want to as much as possible?

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However, if like me you have time constraints selecting medals and saving the entry fee is better. To each there own. =D The math behind playing is compelling however.

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That I agree with. If you have plans you have plans. Obviously if you can't play when the tournament is held, you might as well get something for it and take the medals. I've done that once.

oober 09-10-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
as far as Dobie goes, played with him last week. He had the button on my BB (that was fun, lol) I had to 3bet him 3 consecutive times to settle him down on my BB.

As a note. I did see him pot committed himself for 180bb pot with AKo lp. He 4bet a limp reraise and had to call PF.

doublec 09-10-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I am still of the opinion that 95% of us just trade money, day in and day out, with our profits coming from the weekend warriors and drunk people.

[/ QUOTE ]I took a shot at NL 100 on the weekend, coming from NL 50. The tables seemed to be full of a lot more regulars than at NL50. So I wonder if what you say might indeed be true!

NFuego20 09-10-2007 07:03 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I'm only at 144k points, but with medals and points, I figure I'll get to the plasma in 5-6 months at my current pace.

As far as dobieatwar goes, a player who is constantly brought up in his thread, I openly ask him to minraise more when he sits at my tables. It's a running joke between us at this point. I agree with the point somebody made though that he makes his money by being a solid postflop player. Normally minraises are indicative of complete donks who don't understand bet sizing. Donks will minraise with AA and don't understand why they have such bad luck when they end up in a 5 way pot and somebody beats them. With dobieatwar though, a minraise from him is pretty much the same thing as a limp from anybody else. When he really does have a hand he seems to raise more. He's not going to minraise AA and then get taken to the felt.

vizer02 09-10-2007 08:14 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Wow, I guess I'll be playing the donkaments from now on. Lol, I only have 200,000 more points until I cannot afford that stupid plasma.

vizer02 09-10-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I hope you all know that dobie lurks on these forums, so I wouldn't post notes and strategies about him if I were you. Sorry for spilling the beans Dobie [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


A,10 SOOTED BABY!!!

VeryUnSmart 09-10-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
looks like a few people are saving up for the 50"er
does anyone know if it's 1080i or 720 ??

the store has the 42" as a 720p...
i might save up for it if it's a 1080, but i just dont see ft having the "more expensive" 50" model in the store


and yea, vhunter, your name seems very familiar, so I'm sure i've played with you before

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With dobieatwar though, a minraise from him is pretty much the same thing as a limp from anybody else. When he really does have a hand he seems to raise more. He's not going to minraise AA and then get taken to the felt.


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I would agree with that statement. and i've never seen him minraise premium hands... now saying that, and since he lurks, he's porbalby going to min raise AA vs me, and stack me. lolol

NFuego20 09-11-2007 05:49 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I hope you all know that dobie lurks on these forums, so I wouldn't post notes and strategies about him if I were you. Sorry for spilling the beans Dobie [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


A,10 SOOTED BABY!!!

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dobie, I pwn your lurking a$$

vizer02 09-11-2007 09:33 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
I was assuming the 50in was 1080i just because the smaller one is listed at 720p. It darn well better be 1080i for the amount of points it costs...

Ryanj37 09-11-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
Hey guys how much gets subtracted from your MGR when you use FTP's?

chicken10der 09-11-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
0.5 cents per point

VeryUnSmart 09-11-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
nope. it's a 720p

how lame is that
everyone should email ft and complain, i just did. maybe if they get enough complaints, they'll change it (hahhahaha yeah right, i can dream though)

no way in hell i'd ever spend 400k pts on something that's not 1080i


it's model:TH-50PX75U

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TH-5.../dp/B000O5TFRK

vizer02 09-11-2007 11:46 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
1080i 50incher would be like 550,000 points haha

notfreemoney 09-11-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
can someone please explain how the whole MGR thing works... If I bought the 400,000 point plasma it would subtract .5 cents per point from my RB acct? thats alot if that is true

chicken10der 09-12-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
mgr = monthly gross rake

for every cent that is raked in a hand that you were dealt cards, your mgr increases by the total rake divided by the number of players dealt into the hand. your mgr is also affected by things like spending ftp's or for deposit fees or other things. then at the end of the month, your mgr is multiplied by your rakeback % and that's the $ you get.

so, spending 400k points @ an mgr reduction of 0.5 cent per point (taking $2k off mgr) actually reduces what you otherwise would have received in rakeback by $540 at the end of the month (assuming 27% rb). still a great deal.

Ryanj37 09-12-2007 12:06 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
whats the deposit fee?

chicken10der 09-12-2007 12:11 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
i don't have an exact number. all i've heard is "should be something small like $10-20"

five4suited 09-12-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I aggree that 17013 is amazing. He is by far the best lag NL100 player I have played.

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This is pretty much false.

VeryUnSmart 09-12-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
[ QUOTE ]
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I aggree that 17013 is amazing. He is by far the best lag NL100 player I have played.

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This is pretty much false.

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well... it is true that he is a lag NL$100 player

haha

vizer02 09-12-2007 02:03 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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I aggree that 17013 is amazing. He is by far the best lag NL100 player I have played.

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This is pretty much false.

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I show that he dropped 15 buyins this weekend [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TONZ 09-12-2007 05:02 AM

Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100
 
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mgr = monthly gross rake

for every cent that is raked in a hand that you were dealt cards, your mgr increases by the total rake divided by the number of players dealt into the hand. your mgr is also affected by things like spending ftp's or for deposit fees or other things. then at the end of the month, your mgr is multiplied by your rakeback % and that's the $ you get.

so, spending 400k points @ an mgr reduction of 0.5 cent per point (taking $2k off mgr) actually reduces what you otherwise would have received in rakeback by $540 at the end of the month (assuming 27% rb). still a great deal.

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Lets say I make $2000 in rakeback. if i buy the tv for 400,000 ftp points, $540 will be deducted from rakeback? so i will get $1460 in rakeback that month if i purchase the tv. Am i understanding this correctly?


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