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crashwhips 11-22-2007 10:34 PM

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I'm in the midst of another 26 buy-in downswing in the past two days. I'm such a tilt monkey sigh. Hard to win playing 60/35, 3-betting a huge range and never folding to 3 or 4 bets, and spewing all over the place post.

thisnamedoesntfi 11-23-2007 04:55 AM

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I'm in the midst of another 26 buy-in downswing in the past two days. I'm such a tilt monkey sigh. Hard to win playing 60/35, 3-betting a huge range and never folding to 3 or 4 bets, and spewing all over the place post.

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I hope plzbenice reads this post after reading your previous advice to him .:P

iggymcfly 11-23-2007 05:16 AM

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Yeah, 20bb/100 (10PTBB/100) is sustainable long-term for a good player if the games are soft enough. I've got over 50K hands at 0.50/1 and below and I'm averaging 27.8bb/100.

PTBB is usually the standard on this forum though and while you can easily hit 20 PTBB/100 for 10K hands or so if you're running well, I don't think that can be sustainable.

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From your stats posted here and seeing you win AA53 vs AAJJds, I know you are running shortterm hot in allins. And that could help explain a big winrate shorterm.

I have an academic interest though in knowing how hot (+EV) one could possibly be for allins over the full 50k (or 20, 30k etc) hands. In theory, I think the allin luck should converge to a normal distribution after 100-150 allins (red vs blue lines in Allin luck on PokerEV). And then run pretty close to at EV thereafter.

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The thing here is that while the number of PTBB/100 will eventually reduce due to luck, at the same time, the overall number of buy-ins will slowly increase. So the convergence of lines is very gradual when in absolute terms, they don't even really converge at all.

Here's a long-term graph for you, and apparently, I am quite a luckbox:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1...ergencely1.png

So while the PTBB/100 gained are down under 3 and would likely be under 2 if I doubled the number of hands, the absolute number of buy-ins will continue moving further away from expectation the more hands I play. If I put in a million hands, you'd expect it to be off by 100 BI or so.

P.S. I don't buy this "academic interest" stuff at all. You just wanted to see how much better I was running than you so you could feel sorry for yourself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Elrazor 11-23-2007 05:36 AM

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I'm in the midst of another 26 buy-in downswing in the past two days. I'm such a tilt monkey sigh. Hard to win playing 60/35, 3-betting a huge range and never folding to 3 or 4 bets, and spewing all over the place post.

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I hope plzbenice reads this post after reading your previous advice to him .:P

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quite!! - PlsBernice - i think you have your post flop agro factor skewed by having the include pre flop agression box checked. the standard way of measuring agro factor here is the unchecked version

Big Dave D 11-23-2007 05:37 AM

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Weren't you only saying in Sept how much you would *love* to make 5PTBB? Now you reckon 10PTBB "is sustainable long-term for a good player if the games are soft enough." Your long term seems a 'lil different than mine.

gl

bdd

iggymcfly 11-23-2007 06:25 AM

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Weren't you only saying in Sept how much you would *love* to make 5PTBB? Now you reckon 10PTBB "is sustainable long-term for a good player if the games are soft enough." Your long term seems a 'lil different than mine.

gl

bdd

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I'm 99% sure you have me confused with someone else. At one point, I may have said that I wanted to make a minimum of 5 PTBB/100 at 1/2 and higher since I was extremely frustrated that I was averaging 1 or 2 over a small sample, but I can't imagine being excited about the idea of having such a winrate.

If you look at that graph I posted, you'll see that I'm averaging 9.84 PTBB/100 since July 1st over 87,000 hands which is both pretty close to 10 PTBB/100 and a pretty large sample the last time I checked. Obviously, I'm running a little above expectation, but I was also playing pretty bad in the 1/2 and 2/4 games for a while. If I just look at 0.5/1 and below, my expectation is over 10 PTBB/100 over a span of 50K hands.

Also, if I just look at hands I played 4-handed or less over that same time period, I'm averaging 25 PTBB/100 over 18K hands. Making a little effort to game select, 10 PTBB/100 isn't hard at all.

Big Dave D 11-23-2007 06:43 AM

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Perhaps your ability to estimate probabilities is a little flawed.

http://tinyurl.com/3bev9y

gl

bdd

Troll_Inc 11-23-2007 10:06 AM

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P.S. I don't buy this "academic interest" stuff at all. You just wanted to see how much better I was running than you so you could feel sorry for yourself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Actually you dirty rotten lucky bastard, but I do actually have an academic interest in it. It's not that I hate money or anything and would rather win money than lose it, but I find this nonsense interesting.

So you are up 38% in all-in luck, and I was down ~50% but if I'm reading the following thread correctly the spread of results can be quite high.

I did find this thread where someone analyzed and the deviations are much larger than I would have guessed: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12234213

I'm trying to figure out how to get the data out of PokerEV into Excel.

CrushinFelt 11-23-2007 12:07 PM

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P.S. I don't buy this "academic interest" stuff at all. You just wanted to see how much better I was running than you so you could feel sorry for yourself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Actually you dirty rotten lucky bastard, but I do actually have an academic interest in it. It's not that I hate money or anything and would rather win money than lose it, but I find this nonsense interesting.

So you are up 38% in all-in luck, and I was down ~50% but if I'm reading the following thread correctly the spread of results can be quite high.

I did find this thread where someone analyzed and the deviations are much larger than I would have guessed: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12234213

I'm trying to figure out how to get the data out of PokerEV into Excel.

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Also, fwiw aren't the red/blue lines supposed to diverge in the long run?

roggles 11-24-2007 12:18 AM

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Do you guys enjoy gambling? Even when I have gotten my money in bad I like seeing cards come off, and like the thrill, unless I am losing a lot lately.

I wonder if this mentality makes me a worse player subconsiously.

roggles 11-24-2007 12:38 AM

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I have found a guy who will call anything as long as his hand has some type of chance to win.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4276747926: Table Marla (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - $40 Cap Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:33:12 ET - 2007/11/23
Seat 2: WhiteSoxPride5 ($167.75)
Seat 3: BReaves ($211.30)
Seat 4: jlh2368 ($94.15)
Seat 5: roggles ($151.40)
Seat 6: AteHerBettor ($89.10)
BReaves posts the small blind of $0.50
jlh2368 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to roggles [Kh Kc 9s 8d]
roggles calls $1
AteHerBettor folds
WhiteSoxPride5 raises to $4
BReaves folds
jlh2368 calls $3
roggles calls $3
*** FLOP *** [4d Ad Ks]
jlh2368 bets $1
roggles raises to $15.50
WhiteSoxPride5 folds
jlh2368 calls $14.50
*** TURN *** [4d Ad Ks] [Qd]
jlh2368 bets $1
roggles calls $1
*** RIVER *** [4d Ad Ks Qd] [7h]
jlh2368 bets $9
roggles calls $9
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jlh2368 shows [Qc 7d 7s Tc] three of a kind, Sevens
roggles shows [Kh Kc 9s 8d] three of a kind, Kings
roggles wins the pot ($60.50) with three of a kind, Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $63.50 | Rake $3
Board: [4d Ad Ks Qd 7h]
Seat 2: WhiteSoxPride5 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: BReaves (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: jlh2368 (big blind) showed [Qc 7d 7s Tc] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 5: roggles showed [Kh Kc 9s 8d] and won ($60.50) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: AteHerBettor didn't bet (folded)

CrushinFelt 11-24-2007 12:47 AM

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I wonder if this mentality makes me a worse player subconsiously.

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Depends on the table. If its a nitty table and you're able to win a lot of pots without showdown, then the slightly more occasional -EV spot might be made up for.

roggles 11-24-2007 01:12 AM

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5-way "all-in" (i.e. capped) preflop. I know I suck etc and I am getting in bad

How come the guy with jacks with dead suits is in such great shape?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4277040682: Table Marla (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - $40 Cap Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 0:03:33 ET - 2007/11/24
Seat 1: Hemphills Best ($119.70)
Seat 2: WhiteSoxPride5 ($135.65)
Seat 3: BReaves ($277.10)
Seat 4: jlh2368 ($25.05)
Seat 5: roggles ($112.25)
Seat 6: AteHerBettor ($197.90)
jlh2368 posts the small blind of $0.50
roggles has 5 seconds left to act
roggles posts the big blind of $1
WhiteSoxPride5 posts a dead small blind of $0.50
WhiteSoxPride5 posts $1
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to roggles [7c Ks Ac Qs]
AteHerBettor calls $1
Hemphills Best raises to $6
WhiteSoxPride5 folds
BReaves calls $6
jlh2368 raises to $25.05, and is all in
roggles calls $24.05
AteHerBettor calls $24.05
Hemphills Best raises to $40, and is capped
roggles: lol
BReaves: insanity...i like it
BReaves has 15 seconds left to act
BReaves calls $34, and is capped
roggles calls $14.95, and is capped
jlh2368: wow
AteHerBettor calls $14.95, and is capped
Hemphills Best shows [4h 3h Ad Ah]
BReaves shows [6c 8c 5s As]
jlh2368 shows [Kc Kd 6h 3d]
roggles shows [7c Ks Ac Qs]
AteHerBettor shows [Jh 2h 9d Jd]
*** FLOP *** [Qc Th 5c]
*** TURN *** [Qc Th 5c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Qc Th 5c Jc] [9s]
Hemphills Best shows a pair of Aces
BReaves shows a flush, Queen high
roggles shows a flush, Ace high
AteHerBettor shows three of a kind, Jacks
roggles wins the side pot ($59.80) with a flush, Ace high
jlh2368 shows a pair of Kings
roggles wins the main pot ($123.75) with a flush, Ace high
jlh2368 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $186.55 Main pot $126.75. Side pot $59.80. | Rake $3
Board: [Qc Th 5c Jc 9s]
Seat 1: Hemphills Best showed [4h 3h Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: WhiteSoxPride5 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: BReaves (button) showed [6c 8c 5s As] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 4: jlh2368 (small blind) showed [Kc Kd 6h 3d] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: roggles (big blind) showed [7c Ks Ac Qs] and won ($183.55) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: AteHerBettor showed [Jh 2h 9d Jd] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks

pokenum -o 4h 3h ad ah - 6c 8c 5s as - kc kd 6h 3d - 7c ks ac qs - jh 2h 9d jd
Omaha Hi: 201376 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 4h 3h 26628 13.22 174137 86.47 611 0.30 0.134
As 5s 8c 6c 55050 27.34 145718 72.36 608 0.30 0.275
Kc Kd 3d 6h 34366 17.07 165846 82.36 1164 0.58 0.174
Ks Qs Ac 7c 31599 15.69 169777 84.31 0 0.00 0.157
Jd 9d Jh 2h 52569 26.10 148807 73.90 0 0.00 0.261

plzbenice 11-24-2007 02:09 AM

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5-way "all-in" (i.e. capped) preflop. I know I suck etc and I am getting in bad

How come the guy with jacks with dead suits is in such great shape?


pokenum -o 4h 3h ad ah - 6c 8c 5s as - kc kd 6h 3d - 7c ks ac qs - jh 2h 9d jd
Omaha Hi: 201376 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 4h 3h 26628 13.22 174137 86.47 611 0.30 0.134
As 5s 8c 6c 55050 27.34 145718 72.36 608 0.30 0.275
Kc Kd 3d 6h 34366 17.07 165846 82.36 1164 0.58 0.174
Ks Qs Ac 7c 31599 15.69 169777 84.31 0 0.00 0.157
Jd 9d Jh 2h 52569 26.10 148807 73.90 0 0.00 0.261

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AA cant hit set, KK has only one K to hit, his hearts are blokcing, a lot of hearts are already out.
alot of cards in opponents hnd are blockign each others staightpossibiliyties a littl bit.

still whats th chance of hitting a J in 5 cards? not a lot of cards in 7-T range out so his J9 has a lil good chance to straight it up yo.

roggles 11-24-2007 02:22 AM

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Have you seen this crazy preflop play before?

plzbenice 11-24-2007 02:32 AM

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play 200bb buyin games not silly capgames [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

iggymcfly 11-24-2007 03:31 AM

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Perhaps your ability to estimate probabilities is a little flawed.

http://tinyurl.com/3bev9y

gl

bdd

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OK, so it was averaging 4.19 PTBB/100 at 1/2 and above that I was disappointed in. Note that I'd been averaging 20 PTBB/100 at 0.5/1 and below over the same time so it certainly wasn't like this was a crazy optimistic goal.

Arctic 11-24-2007 08:01 AM

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Where do you play with euros?

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B2B and Boss?

AlexKP 11-24-2007 09:27 AM

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My nov. so far...

2/4 and 3/6

How do I get the pic in the thread?



[img=http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2113/nov1zd4.th.jpg] [image]http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nov1zd4.jpg[/image]

Elrazor 11-24-2007 11:26 AM

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http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2113/nov1zd4.jpg

like this [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Woolygimp 11-24-2007 11:40 AM

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I normally play 5/10 PLO live when I do play Omaha. Friend transferred me a bit on stars and I'm up 45 buyins at .5/1.

I haven't played online since the ban, nor have I used pokertracker. It's actually been uninstalled, I need to re-install it and upload these hands, if they are saved in a local file. I forget how stars does it.

cmyr 11-24-2007 02:42 PM

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where are you playing live?

royce 11-24-2007 05:45 PM

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5-way "all-in" (i.e. capped) preflop. I know I suck etc and I am getting in bad

How come the guy with jacks with dead suits is in such great shape?


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maybe twodimes just wants to reinforce my consistent spewtard play [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

sc000t 11-25-2007 02:27 AM

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http://www.pocketfives.com/DA5D52BE-...4C5AC50B9.aspx

wow, theres actually PLO discussion on P5s.

iggymcfly 11-25-2007 05:58 AM

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From P5s thread:

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position>hand value, I thought it was preety standard to just call w/ even the top aces out of the blinds playing 70BB+

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I rarely open raise AA in PLO. Most top PLO players agree with this. The only exception would be when you are late in a tournament and the blind/stack ratios are low, esp in position.

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Annette,nearly every single PLO player who has had success in the big game online has adopted a strategy of never 3-betting vs. an open raise when in the blinds. Even a strong suited aces hand is a flat call. I can only think of one winner who doesn't play like this.

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I only play live action PLO my limits are 1-2-5 and 5-10-25. i know its weird having three blinds but thats how they do it in the south, first off im gona tell you annette that the best PLO games are for sure located during the WSOP and WPT events in tunica, they have more Omaha cash games going that NL it seems like, I dunno why but n the south they love Omaha. I am a consistant winner in omaha and patience is the Key, I also never re-raise untill the turn or river. sometimes I just flat call with the nutz on the river when I know im not gona get called when I reraise and they look at me funny when I just call them with the nutz, but by doing that the players tend to give me more free cards in fear im checking the nutz.

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And people wonder why the PLO games are so much easier to beat than HE nowadays. There are so many players that are just way, way off the mark that it's ridiculous. I really need to just chain myself to the computer for a while and put in hands, because there's so much easy money out there.

My problem is that when I'm winning consistently, I start getting lazy and I don't put in enough hands. I guess Thanksgiving and all the good football games were a pretty good excuse the last few days, but I've still only put in about 55 hours in all of November and that's pathetic. I'm going to be in Mexico for a week in December too and I really need to at least get to Supernova on Stars before the end of the year.

TimberBee 11-25-2007 08:09 AM

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funny thread in many ways. Why doesnt' yellowsub post in the omaha forum at 2+2? He's a regular in the MTT-forums...

Elrazor 11-25-2007 12:23 PM

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I'm going to be in Mexico for a week in December

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great place - where abouts are you going/staying??

sc000t 11-25-2007 01:24 PM

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funny thread in many ways. Why doesnt' yellowsub post in the omaha forum at 2+2? He's a regular in the MTT-forums...

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I'm not sure, it would be great if he did. He seems to have some good insight from what I can see just reading that thread. I didn't even know he played plo, YS if your reading this, post some here.

On another note, that action jeff guy seems like a douche. Does he even play PLO?

CrushinFelt 11-25-2007 03:19 PM

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http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3953217
pokenum -o td 9d kh 9h - 5h 5d ts tc - jc 7c 8s jd - kc qs js 2h -- qd jh 5c
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 5c Qd Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Td 9d Kh 9h 269 50.95 254 48.11 5 0.95 0.514
Ts Tc 5d 5h 32 6.06 496 93.94 0 0.00 0.061
8s Jc 7c Jd 161 30.49 367 69.51 0 0.00 0.305
Qs Js Kc 2h 61 11.55 462 87.50 5 0.95 0.120


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It should be illegal for me to lose this

CrushinFelt 11-25-2007 08:25 PM

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This one held! Ship the 600bb pot. Had 51% 4-way again lol.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3954402
pokenum -o kd 8d jh 8h - ad ac kh ts - 2c 6d 3h 5h - 5s 7h tc 6c -- 8s 4d 3c
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 8s 3c 4d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kd 8d Jh 8h 271 51.33 257 48.67 0 0.00 0.513
Ts Ac Ad Kh 11 2.08 517 97.92 0 0.00 0.021
2c 6d 5h 3h 31 5.87 399 75.57 98 18.56 0.152
5s Tc 6c 7h 117 22.16 313 59.28 98 18.56 0.314

TimberBee 11-25-2007 08:32 PM

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That reminds me of this hand I played earlier:

$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$233.75</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$547.35</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$127.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$384.85</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$200.00</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$186.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is SB 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls $2, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $34</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $32, UTG+1 calls $28, <font color="#cc0000">CO goes all-in $127</font>, <font color="#777777">BTN folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $200</font>, UTG calls $166, UTG+1 calls $166

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($735, 4 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG goes all-in $33.75</font>

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($802.5, 4 players)

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($802.5, 4 players)

Final Pot: $802.50
UTG shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG+1 shows: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO shows: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero shows: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG wins $286.5 ( won +$52.75 )
UTG+1 wins $86.25 ( lost -$233.75 )
CO wins $513 ( won +$386 )
BTN lost -$6.00
Hero lost -$200.00

iggymcfly 11-25-2007 08:55 PM

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I'm going to be in Mexico for a week in December

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great place - where abouts are you going/staying??

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Going to Tulum. It was kind of spur of the moment, my uncle was going down there and said it was only $1000 for airfare/accommodations with meals and booze included, so I figured what the hell.

SteveL91 11-26-2007 03:02 AM

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Dear PokerStars,

Feel free to blow me. This month, I've had a ~20BI slide at 1/2, but it was tolerable because I was doing well at .50/1.00. Now, there's a nice ~18BI slide for me to deal with at the latter. Good God I must suck worse than I thought. I know it may not be that bad overall, but when taken in the context of my year has gone and how low my confidence is right now, it's rather irritating to say the least.

I think it's time to re-evaluate things, and try and figure out whether or not I'm deluding myself.

Sorry for the rant.

Steve

cmyr 11-26-2007 11:15 AM

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I'll be the first to say that PLO is really swingy and all, but I feel strongly that if you're running that badly at those levels you aren't playing optimally.

Elrazor 11-26-2007 11:19 AM

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I'm going to be in Mexico for a week in December

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great place - where abouts are you going/staying??

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Going to Tulum. It was kind of spur of the moment, my uncle was going down there and said it was only $1000 for airfare/accommodations with meals and booze included, so I figured what the hell.

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its a great place. ive been a few times now to Cancun and also Puerto Vuelata on the pacific coast and along with Italy is the only place away from home i feel i could live

GAL 11-26-2007 02:58 PM

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Been really trying to get back into PLO the last couple of month with pretty average results.

I was playing up to 5/10 at the start of this year but don't have any PT numbers to compare with, can you guys give my stats a look, my PFR and PF agg. numbers look really low.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1...last30kyg0.png

gordo16 11-26-2007 03:13 PM

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random question, but:
is there anywhere that I can find a semi-official list of people that are considered to be the best PLO players in the world, both live/online?

Grandezza 11-26-2007 03:55 PM

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random question, but:
is there anywhere that I can find a semi-official list of people that are considered to be the best PLO players in the world, both live/online?

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aba made one in his secret blog.. not sure I feel good about linking you though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

SteveL91 11-26-2007 05:16 PM

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I'll be the first to say that PLO is really swingy and all, but I feel strongly that if you're running that badly at those levels you aren't playing optimally.

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I tend to agree with you, which is why I'm so frustrated. I thought I was at least playing decently, but now, I dunno. I've been going over the hands I've played and I don't see anything too egregious, but there are a few hands that I feel I misplayed; some where my hand reading was just flat-out bad; and plenty more where the money went in really well and I lost to a suckout; and there were definitely a couple where I was tilting.

Maybe I'll start a thread with a bunch of the hands that I've lost the most on, and see if someone picks up on something that I'm missing. In the meantime, I think I'm going to take at least a couple days off and try and figure things out.

Nov. 07:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1/nov07PLO.jpg

Since I started playing PLO again in Aug.:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o112507PLO.jpg

I'd post stats, but I really don't think it would show anything significant.

gordo16 11-26-2007 05:49 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
random question, but:
is there anywhere that I can find a semi-official list of people that are considered to be the best PLO players in the world, both live/online?

[/ QUOTE ]

aba made one in his secret blog.. not sure I feel good about linking you though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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[ ] secret blog jokes are funny


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