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JUST A GUESS (didn't have time to dig this)

- Regarding "GARIN DAVIS GUSTAFSON - Owner of Absolute - 1997 SAE Alum. " = the name really sounds Swedish.
- The German bank account of Absolute is in the same branch (same city) of the same bank at the same adress that a Swedish company involved in online poker (involved : has rooms running under different names + provides the software). This company is 24H P (listed on the Stockholm stock exchange).
Check my previous posts because I mentionned this Swedish company some days ago.

Any connection ? Maybe this would allow to go up one step as to who owns absolute. (sorry if this has been talked about already, I didn't browse the last 60 pages of posts).

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maybe gary could just do a:

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That actually might help keep me off tilt when I see his posts.

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My signature tilts you?

GG

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About the Swedish (possible ?) connection,
here are my two previous posts :

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To wire Money into Absolute or UB it goes to:

Bank: Wirecard Bank AG
Account Name: Absolute Entertainment S.A.
Address: Bretonischer Ring 4
85630 Grasbrunn



For eviltable.com :
Transfers in EURO
Bank: Wirecard Bank AG
Account holder: 24hPAY Ltd
Account number: 6716
Sort Code/Routing Number: 512 308 00
Bank details: Wirecard Bank AG
Bretonischer Ring 4 | 85630 Grasbrunn,
GERMANY
SWIFT WIREDEM1XXX
IBAN: DE17 512 308 00 000 000 6716


bestonepoker.com :
Transfers in EURO
Bank: Wirecard Bank AG
Account holder: 24hPAY Ltd
Account number: 6716
Sort Code/Routing Number: 512 308 00
Bank details: Wirecard Bank AG
Bretonischer Ring 4 | 85630 Grasbrunn,
GERMANY
SWIFT WIREDEM1XXX
IBAN: DE17 512 308 00 000 000 6716

Same for carbonpoker, vegas247. Probably others to be found



Wirecard Bank AG is a bank headquartered in Germany. It is regulated by the German Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin).


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If there's a link between 24hpay ltd and absolute entertainment (no idea ? possibly), then 24hpay is listed on the Stockholm Stock Exchange under "24h"

24hPoker is operated by 24hPAY Ltd, Malta. The company provides different gaming services in cooperation with leading software providers to bring our players the best possible gaming experience.

24hPAY Ltd operating Sportsbetting, is regulated and licensed by Lotteries and Gaming Authority in Malta (www.lga.org.mt/lga/home.asp), License no LG/CL2/236/2005 issued 9th March 2006. Poker operates in cooperation with with B2B Poker(www.b2bpoker.com) and Casino in cooperation with Net Entertainment (www.netent.com).

SECURITY

The Random Number Generators (RNG) used in the businesses are tested by 3rd parties. The group that 24hPAY Ltd is part of is listed on the Stockholm Stock Exchange (under "24H") and has chosen PricewaterhouseCoopers as auditors.

SUPPORT

For 24/7 email-support about our gaming services please contact support@24hpoker.com.

CONTACT

24hPAY Ltd
Tigne Place
Block 12, Office 2/3
Tigne Street, Sliema
SLM 11 Malta

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can't we just ban him for quoting the entire op as the third reply

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If you do ban me, will I still have the capacity to lurk/listen/learn? Oh, and c/p? and pm's?

DS and AP have made me absolutely permanently paranoid.

tia


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No mention of them having contacted the police, in any country. Think about that.

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I don't think AJ Green blackmailing AP is a secret by now so I'm just gonna come out and say it: AJ Green blackmailed AP. duh.

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if the secret has come out, then why aren't they going after him now? If true, wouldn't that be the fastest way for them to regain their credibility?

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I just assumed this was the case, but it seems that some people do not understand it.

There's some rule that the tribe must own the companies operating the gaming operations. Thus, they own the brand.

Meanwhile, the people who own the real assets of AP - the systems, the employees, the databases, the IP, etc - are someone else.


Please stop claiming that the tribe chief owns AP. He does not own AP in the meaningful sense that any casual reader would take that claim to mean.

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So the letter that Chief Joe Norton wrote to the public about how they caught the high level consultant and were going to clean up the mess was a letter from someone not in a high position at AP? He wrote the letter to the public saying he was going to correct matters, but in essence he isn't in any position to do the things he claimed?

Sorry if this is redundant, I just assumed he had some pull from that letter. But you are actually saying he is only the owner on paper, but doesn't control the assets involved, and probably doesn't have any power to correct matters?

So if the owner of AP can't change things, who actually is in power there that has committed to changing things, the things Chief Norton mentioned in his first letter to the public?

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The Mohawks do not have a great relationship with the Canadian Government and got into a violent conflict over land in the early 1990's. The "Oka Crisis" lasted seventy-eight days and resulted in three deaths. Oka Crisis


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The above quoted link didn't work for me. I used this one:
Oka_Crisis

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So do the Mohawks who own AP have anybody in Costa Rica actually overseeing the company? Or is AP totally run by consultants?

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The Mohawks don't own anything. They put their names as owners as a workaround to Canadian laws. They don't actually 'own' any of the companies they "license".

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No mention of them having contacted the police, in any country. Think about that.

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I don't think AJ Green blackmailing AP is a secret by now so I'm just gonna come out and say it: AJ Green blackmailed AP. duh.

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if the secret has come out, then why aren't they going after him now? If true, wouldn't that be the fastest way for them to regain their credibility?

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please explain how going after him now would stop him telling the DOJ what he knows any better than a week ago

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The people who have been fingered - Tom and Green, are in hiding somewhere in a third world country where they don't need to fear extradition.

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just to be safe, i propose that we finger serinda as well...