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kidcolin 07-19-2007 03:42 PM

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You know, like numchuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. Teams only want players who have great skills!!

Card08 07-19-2007 03:45 PM

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Yeah...I need to revise this seeing as the Rockets got Scola in the Spanoulius deal, signed Francis, and will probably
hold on to Hayes.

1. Yao Ming
2. Tracy McGrady
3. Shane Battier
4. Luther Head
5. Luis Scola
6. Bonzi Wells
7. Rafer Alston
8. Mike James
9. Aaron Brooks
10. Chuck Hayes


11. Steve Francis??? (sort of the same deal that put Michael Finley in San Antonio....2 years for 6 M total is a very reasonable risk if Francis can play at the half the level he did in Houston the 1st time)

dontmesswithme 07-19-2007 03:46 PM

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AllInDan at least saved his Golden State brethren. There's no chance Biedrins is their top asset.


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Silly me, I forgot every team nowadays has 9.5/9.3/1.7/.82 athletic 7ft 21 yr olds with 3 years NBA experience, catch-everything hands, and can run the court like most PF can.

As opposed to the much more rare 6'3'' shoot first PG/SG with suspect ball handling and no range besides a ft line jumper. God those are such an asset.

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whatever dude I love Biedrins but Monta is going to be a star. The point is that Monta + Andris + Wright is a potentially awesome future and I really don't want to trade that away. Your description of Monta just makes me think you don't watch very many warriors games.

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I watched plenty of Warrior games this year, though not as many as I would've liked since I'm in SoCal for school.

Monta can be very lazy with the ball. Sure, when he's driving he's golden, but that's mainly because he can just blow by everyone not named Harris or Barbosa. But in bringing the ball up court and dribbling around the perimeter, he is prone to getting the ball stolen. I dunno if its laziness or not paying attention or something, hopefully it can be worked on.

If you don't think he's a shoot first pg in the mold of Gilbert rather than a pass first like Baron, well I guess we disagree there.

He is also not a 3 point shooter. Not saying he can't learn some range, but right now he has that move where he dribbles to the top of the key and pulls up that he sinks regularly and well. But he's probably not in the top 5 of guys I want pulling up for 3 on this team.

This is not to detract too much from Monta, because he still is young and already talented and still with plenty of potential.

But so is Andris, and he's 7 ft tall, which makes him a clear cut bigger asset in my opinion.

Vyse 07-19-2007 05:40 PM

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You forgot that Biedrins >>> Monta right now as well.

AllinDan 07-19-2007 05:58 PM

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Monta's passing has improved a ton since he came into the league. I think what you mean by "lazy with the ball" is that he's a 2nd year player out of high school. When biedrins gets the ball he just needs to turn and shoot, Monta is responsible for the offensive flow of the entire team, which is much more difficult. This is a kid who averaged 35 ppg in high school, of course he's shoot first, but he's young and has the talent to develop more range and will become more comfortable with experience. I'm also shocked that you think

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but that's mainly because he can just blow by everyone not named Harris or Barbosa.

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is a negative? as for barbosa, please see this clip. Also, Monta can fly. Again, I love biedrins, and I don't particularly care which one is better right now, I want both to be a part of the warriors future.

AllinDan 07-19-2007 06:00 PM

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But so is Andris, and he's 7 ft tall, which makes him a clear cut bigger asset in my opinion.

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bigger != better, Oden > Durant notwithstanding.

oe39 07-19-2007 06:01 PM

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btw, what happened to ak47 being a "great" player?

Vyse 07-19-2007 06:06 PM

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But so is Andris, and he's 7 ft tall, which makes him a clear cut bigger asset in my opinion.

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bigger != better, Oden > Durant notwithstanding.

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He's not saying it is. He's saying they're roughly equal right now (which is wrong; Biedrins is much better), but the rarity of size makes Biedrins better. Position scarcity matters you know.

tuq 07-19-2007 06:07 PM

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as for barbosa, please see this clip.

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I don't know what that has to do with the conversation at hand, but since we're off-topic I would love to see a youtube clip consisting solely of Biedrins shooting free throws.

kidcolin 07-19-2007 06:33 PM

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btw, what happened to ak47 being a "great" player?

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Sloan got his bread and butter of the pick and roll back in Williams and Boozer, and killed AK's strengths on the court by moving him to 3. He's much, much better as an undersized 4. They really need to ship him.


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