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There were a couple things I meant to say about the last few episodes.

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One thing I want to mention is that the actor who plays Ben is really really good. His range is phenomenal. No, I'm serious. At first I thought he was just very funny and really good at over acting. I thought he was quite the character. But watching how he reacted when he found out his daughter was kidnapped and then later seeing him in the jail cell, well I realized what a phenomenal actor he is and I'm just so glad that you turned me onto this series.

Another thing I forgot to mention, I really liked the scene in episode 14 where they are watching the stage performance with the girl in the red dress singing. That was pretty cool and had quite an interesting ambiance.

Dom,
I agree that the images of Bob are haunting. For me, it is the moment when you see the maniacal grin and the gloves raised in the air and he runs towards Maddy on the staircase. Freaking terrifying and just so violent. Wow.

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Gwen: God, how you must hate us white people after all we've done to you.
Hawk: Some of my best friends are white.

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Episode 15: Drive With A Dead Girl (2.008)

Written by Scott Frost.
Directed by Caleb Deschanel.
Original Airdate: November 17, 1990

Cooper's and Truman's search for BOB gets a boost from the one-armed man, who is suffering from an identity crisis; James Hurley and Donna Hayward miss the chance to say goodbye to Maddy; Norma Jennings' mother, Vivian, brings her new husband for a visit; Lucy returns home with some company; Bobby Briggs pursues a fresh money-making venture; Pete Martell delivers a message to Ben Horne; and Leland Palmer's driving ability comes into question.


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A bit of a calmer episode than the last one, but Leland is still central here, madding it up bigtime, and is by far the best thing about the episode. I would like to know what he was intending to do with that golf club just before Agent Cooper gets called away.

There's also an interesting interlude where the Horne brothers have a shared childhood memory of watching an older girl dance for them in the dark with a flashlight that's pretty memorable.

Otherwise, a more traditional soap-like effort. We get to meet some new characters (Norma's mother + new husband, Lucy's sister Gwen). And Ben Horne looks like he's about to be taken for a ride by two separate parties.

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Haha, I wish I could remember some of Jerry's lines when he was visiting Ben in jail. They were gold. He's supposed to be offering emotional and legal support to his client and he's like "Man, this is so depressing."

What did Cooper say about him? That Jerry had graduated last in his class?

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Haha, I wish I could remember some of Jerry's lines when he was visiting Ben in jail. They were gold. He's supposed to be offering emotional and legal support to his client and he's like "Man, this is so depressing."

What did Cooper say about him? That Jerry had graduated last in his class?

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One of the lines was something like 'As your lawyer, friend and brother, I advise you to get a better lawyer.'

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Cooper: Did you kill Laura Palmer?
Bob: (howls like a monkey). That's a 'yes'.

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Episode 16: Arbitrary Law (2.009)

Written by Mark Frost, Harley Peyton and Robert Engels.
Directed by Tim Hunter.
Original Airdate: December 1, 1990.

Cooper asks Truman to give him 24 hours to prove who murdered Laura Palmer; Donna Hayward is stunned by Deputy Andy's knowledge of French; Mrs. Tremond does a disappearing act; Harold Smith leaves behind a tidbit of valuable information; Ben Horne's business fortunes hit an all-time low; a strange gathering is called to the roadhouse; and it's high noon for Lucy, Andy and Tremayne.


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While we the viewer already know who Bob is, Cooper and Truman (and everyone else) don't know this. But in this episode, they find out.

Cooper knows in his heart Ben Horne didn't do it, and he knows he's used all his powers to no avail. So he turns to a final one, magic, to solve the riddle. And solve it he does, as he remembers what words Laura whispered to him in his dream.


There's a few comedy asides in this one (watching Lucy getting a little excited when Andy starts acting manly on the phone to Dick, and then deflating when he turns wussy again), but mostly it's intense.

The whole scene with 'Bob' and Donna is tense as hell, and the whole final section where they catch Bob, and his killing Leland....wow. Watching Leland remember it all, and be in terrible pain over it, only to die ...wow.


I think some purists argue twin peaks should have ended on this episode, but I'm glad it doesn't. IIRR, it does get more whimsical for a good stretch after this, but it remains fun, good to look at, and who could bored of Cooper? And anyway, the final 4 or so episodes are fantastic.

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The whole scene with 'Bob' and Donna is tense as hell, and the whole final section where they catch Bob, and his killing Leland....wow. Watching Leland remember it all, and be in terrible pain over it, only to die ...wow.



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Yikes, this show is pretty weird DB! After watching too many bad things on the news and then watching this episode I am now officially creeped out [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

I have to confess that i don't get what's going on here. (haha! I PMed diebitter and asked him if Leland actually died [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

I don't get the whole "Bob" thing. I'm supposed to believe that Leland was a good man who was possessed? Why did Laura write in her diary about "Bob"? Please explain that one cuz right now I am associating Bob with Leland you know.

I have a feeling that the actor who played Leland never got another good acting role after this. He had to have been type cast. The whole thing with him attempting to dance with Donna was just so freaky. And I totally missed the clues that Cooper explains in this episode, you know about the dancing dwarf and the grey haired man. Went right over my head.

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The whole scene with 'Bob' and Donna is tense as hell, and the whole final section where they catch Bob, and his killing Leland....wow. Watching Leland remember it all, and be in terrible pain over it, only to die ...wow.



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Yikes, this show is pretty weird DB! After watching too many bad things on the news and then watching this episode I am now officially creeped out [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

I have to confess that i don't get what's going on here. (haha! I PMed diebitter and asked him if Leland actually died [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

I don't get the whole "Bob" thing. I'm supposed to believe that Leland was a good man who was possessed? Why did Laura write in her diary about "Bob"? Please explain that one cuz right now I am associating Bob with Leland you know.

I have a feeling that the actor who played Leland never got another good acting role after this. He had to have been type cast. The whole thing with him attempting to dance with Donna was just so freaky. And I totally missed the clues that Cooper explains in this episode, you know about the dancing dwarf and the grey haired man. Went right over my head.

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the below contains SPOILERS for those who haven't watched up to the point Katy and DB are discussing

Katy, I've always assumed that Leland was schizophrenic and mostly blocked out his abuse of Laura. His alter ego is Bob, a monster/devil. Because Leland's psyche believes Bob has possessed him, he can survive believing he is not responsible for his daughter's ruined life. The split personality that is Bob allows Leland to not be consumed by guilt. When he is confronted by his actions and can no longer hide them behind his other personality, he more or less kills himself out of guilt and pain.

As for Laura herself (and you'll have to watch the movie Fire: Walk With Me to understand this) she also allows her mind to split so that the person abusing her is the evil "Bob" character and not the father who loves her.

It's all about two minds making a justification in order survive something that would otherwise make them go even more insane than they already are.

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Dom

Can't agree. There's too many things indicating Bob is an external presence.

1) 'Mike' talking about Bob and hunting him for years, and identifying loosely where he is, and describing exactly what he is
2) Sarah and Maddy Palmer seeing Bob in visions without knowledge of anything involving a 'Bob'.
3) Agent Cooper seeing Bob in a dream, and actually providing enough of a descritio he provides a sketch that 'Mike' can identify.
4) Ronette Polaski seeing Bob (not Leland) in her memories (and reacting violently to the previously-mentioned sketch).




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Katy,

Yes, I don't think Ray Wise did anything really good after TP, other than the movie 'Fire Walk With Me'. IIRR, he was pretty phenomenal in that, a real tour-de-force performance. It's amazing what performances Lynch can get out of some of his actors (see Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive for another terrific performance), actors who often go back to obscurity somewhat.

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Dom

Can't agree. There's too many things indicating Bob is an external presence.

1) 'Mike' talking about Bob and hunting him for years, and identifying loosely where he is, and describing exactly what he is
2) Sarah and Maddy Palmer seeing Bob in visions without knowledge of anything involving a 'Bob'.
3) Agent Cooper seeing Bob in a dream, and actually providing enough of a descritio he provides a sketch that 'Mike' can identify.
4) Ronette Polaski seeing Bob (not Leland) in her memories (and reacting violently to the previously-mentioned sketch).

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you could be right...but i've always thought of those things you mention as Lynch's way of finding the evil in ordinary life....more of an intepretation and not so much literal happenings.

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Cooper: There's nothing quite like urinating out in the open air.


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Episode 17: Dispute Between Brothers (2.010)

Written by Tricia Brock.
Directed by Tina Rathborne.
Original Airdate: December 8, 1990.

Cooper and Truman exchange goodbyes; a wake is held for Leland Palmer; Dougie Milford, publisher of the Twin Peaks Gazette, twists the ear of his brother, Mayor Milford; Hank takes Ernie off on an impromptu "hunting trip" to Canada; Dr. Jacoby and Ed Hurley persuade the vice principal to allow Nadine to finish high school; Bobby borrows some duds from Leo; Catherine pays a visit to the sheriff's station; Tremayne embraces fatherhood; an FBI agent comes to town with unpleasant business for Cooper; and Audrey divulges her ice cream preference to a newfound friend.


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LOL at Big Ed's face when Nadine asks about her underpants being visible in her shiny shoes at Leland's wake!

There's a sweet scene between Audrey and Cooper saying goodbye.

Well, this is an episode that feels like a final episode (at least right up until Cooper is saying goodbye and the FBI Internal Affairs guy turns up), and then it suddenly veers into something else, especially the end where Major Briggs disappears in the woods.


Still fun, but one of the more forgettable episodes.