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omaha 05-04-2007 11:49 AM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
Unfckn real post, agree with all the excellent comments.

A couple of questions

What should our Went to SD and our Won $ at SD be about? Obviously, they are somewhat related, and will depend upon our style.

My wsd is about 30% and won $ at showdown is about 45%

I think i need to get the Won$ at showdown up a bit, and go to the felt less often. Then again, there is a lot to be said for the crying call on the river! I think it was Caro that said (regarding limit) that your river calls will prolly lose, but, averaged out, they win. Obviously this applies less in NL than limit.

What sort of went to SD and won$ at showdown are people getting?

Grim Reapa 05-04-2007 11:52 AM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 

Went to SD should be ~23%
Won $ - 53%

This is mine over 100k, is this about right??

luck=skill 05-14-2007 03:32 PM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
very useful post thx Pokey

str0kes 05-25-2007 07:33 AM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
Great post / bump

Win.by.TKo 05-28-2007 10:25 PM

PokerTracker numbers: Tourney v. 50NL 6-max
 
Quick question. How much variance is there in one's PT numbers full ring vs 6-max? It seems that when I play 6-max, I loosen up my hand selection a bit. As a result, PT deemed me as a Maniac (31.8/24/2.75). Granted, the sample size is puny, as I just started playing cash games not too long ago, but it seemed weird to go from a 1.69AF tourney to the 2.75AF 50NL 6-max. What should I make of this change?

Pokerho 06-02-2007 08:46 PM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
Wow, what a post. And apparently my holes are the first things you discuss...

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1. Do you have sufficient preflop aggression? To answer this question, open up your ring game statistics and go to the "position stats" page. For each position other than the small blind, divide the "PF Raise %" by the "Vol. Put $ In Pot." If you get a number smaller than 0.5, you're not aggressive enough out of that position. See, aggression is a relative term; it should be a function of your level of looseness. You can be a consistently winning player at SSNL with a VPIP of 12%, and you can be a consistently winning player at SSNL with a VPIP of 30%, but only if you are sufficiently aggressive. My general guideline is that you should raise at least half the hands you play, from every position on the table.

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I play 6 max nearly exclusively. Here's my stats since PP quit taking US bets: (also coincidentally since my winrate plummeted)

Button : .60
1 : .39
2 : .33
3 : .33
BB : .45

This is the Pre Flop Raise / VPIP number, and obviously almost everything is less than .5, except for the button. My question is, which hands do I play more aggressive? I always thought I was a pretty aggressive player, but obviously not, as the remainder of this post will show.


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2. Are you positionally aware? Positional awareness means that you understand Ed Miller's comment when he said:
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Total all the dollars you've ever bet playing poker. The large majority of those dollars should have been bet from late position. Only a small percentage of your total handle should have been bet from up front.


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To test this, go to the Position Stats and look down the list of VPIP from Button to UTG. You should see that VPIP steadily dropping the farther you get from the button. I'd love to see my button VPIP at double my UTG VPIP, but if my Button VPIP is at least 50% larger than my UTG VPIP, I'm happy with the situation.

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My numbers:

Button : 28.63
1 : 26.90
2 : 27.13
3 : 25.50
BB : 15.53
SB : 35.51

I think this is generally trending in the right direction, but it is way off from what Pokey thinks is right. In particular, my Button VPIP isn't anywhere near 50% more than my UTG VPIP. Do I play more from the button, or play less from UTG? Or both? Is this as relevant in 6-max as it is in full ring?

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10. Postflop aggression. Clear the filter. Select the “More Detail…” button above the “Filters…” button. Scroll down. There is a section marked “First Action on Flop After A Pre-flop Raise.” This shows your likelihood of continuation betting. If you add Bet and Raise, the total should be at least 40%. If it’s not, you’re probably giving up too soon on your good hands, and that will cost you money in the long run. Remember: people who cold-call a preflop bet are often in fit-or-fold mode. If you don’t bet, you don’t give them a chance to fold. The pot is already decent-sized, and there’s no reason to give some donk a free look at a turn card that could sink you. If you raised preflop, you need a good reason NOT to raise the flop. Continuation betting should be your default play. Scroll down a bit farther to “Aggression Factor.” Your total aggression factor should be at LEAST 2. No-limit is not a game where you can call frequently and turn a profit. You should always be looking to see if you can raise or fold; only if you have a good reason why you CANNOT raise or fold should you call. As a result, calling should be an infrequent occurrence in your play, which gives you a large aggression factor.

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My aggression factor:
Pre Flop : 0.59
Flop : 4.27
Turn : 3.38
River : 3.39
Total : 1.29

Again, I used to think I was pretty aggressive. How big a change do I need to make? Which portion should I be more aggressive on? All of them? If I change my PF aggression, will that fix the whole biscuit, or no? And as with PF aggression, how do I know how far to go? How aggressive is too aggressive?

Rainclouds 06-03-2007 07:45 AM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
Regarding the last issue, just limp less and it's all good. It's really that simple.

godofPOPOV 06-05-2007 04:26 PM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
you said under number one to open up your ring game stats,
does all this information apply exactly to cash games as well?

Bonobo11 06-08-2007 12:53 PM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
Great stuff !! Thnx

Vecernicek 06-12-2007 03:16 AM

Re: How to use Poker Tracker.
 
I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask this in, but can anyone tell me if PokerTracker currently works for OnGame skins?


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