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MattSuspect 11-13-2007 06:23 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
Ok, so this is the thread. WTF Marbury.

Rubeskies 11-13-2007 07:05 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
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Ok, so this is the thread. WTF Marbury.

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I just don't get how, getting paid millions of dollars to play a game and you don't show up for work. It is simply ridiculous.

Sigh.

Mardy Collins is starting tonight.

JuntMonkey 11-13-2007 07:39 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
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Wow...is it really worth my time to read all that? I'm intruiged, but its very long.

I'll admit that I could just have selective memory, but out of the times in which I've been "in the zone" and felt as if "just get me an open look and its going in" I swear that I shoot 80+% during that time, and I'm obviously nowhere close to that overall.

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You don't have to read it if you don't want. Basically it says that being in the zone is a fallacy and offers pretty compelling evidence to back it up based on statistics. It is a similar situation to running hot or cold in poker.

Personally, I've experienced the same thing as you where I'm on fire but it seems to be that if you play enough basketball you're gonna have hot and cold shooting nights just based on variance. It isn't like you are trying any harder to make a shot at different times.

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I argue about this with people a lot. I don't believe in the "hot hand" or clutch hitting or being "in the zone". People often respond "then you've never played sports". Of course I've played sports and of course I've felt those moments, but it probably wasn't real.

And even if there is some sort of confidence improvement for amateurs, it doesn't apply to professionals who have been doing it all their lives. John Starks jumped into the air with a ball in his hands and threw the ball at the basket with his right hand while extending his arm and snapping his wrist hundreds of thousands of times in his life. Being in a good mood doesn't affect the [censored] half-inch difference between hitting and missing from 20 feet away.

This is coming from a guy who used to live and die with John Starks. I've come to realize that the 2-for-18 in Game 7 of the Finals in '94 was just an unfortunate case of variance. And good ole' Reggie Miller just happened to hit at all the wrong times (for us). For those with selective memories, I've seen Miller miss several game-winning shots, and even two free-throws in a row once in the final minute of a game at the Garden. I'd love to have a record of all of Robert Horry's potential game-winning shots, which would likely show that he misses as many as he makes.

"No matter how good you are, there is a lot of luck involved." - Reggie Miller

DesertCat 11-13-2007 07:45 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
Would anyone even trade for Scrub-bary or do they just need to cut him? There can't be a team in the league that doesnt realize he is a poor shooting ball hog and a turnover machine, and thats not even talking about his defense.

kidcolin 11-13-2007 07:50 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
I think they probably win more games if they cut Marbury.

DC,

I think he's definitely untradeable.

dregal 11-13-2007 10:16 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
If we buy him out, he counts against the salary cap right?

kidcolin 11-13-2007 10:23 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
no his contract comes off the books.

Suigin406 11-13-2007 10:55 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
i just got around to seeing this marbury [censored], i mean what the [censored], does this guy just like [censored] with everyone?? i [censored] hate his mentality from the PG spot, i hate his effort and attitude, please to be giving this prick the foot and send him somewhere for a bag of BBQ chips

ClarkNasty 11-13-2007 11:23 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
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no his contract comes off the books.

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You sure? I thought the Allan Houston rule was a one-time special exemption.

kidcolin 11-13-2007 11:44 PM

Re: New York Knicks \'07-\'08 playoffs or Busto thread
 
I thought that was the whole point of a buy out. To save the money. i.e., the reason the Knicks bought out Jalen Rose and the Blazers bought out Steve Francis. I'm googling now.


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