WSOP Qualifier hand - flopped bottom set - how fast do you play it

TripDaddy · #1 03-10-2006, 01:38 AM

Full Tilt Poker Game #48845242: WSOP Main Event Qualifier (2969098), Table 4 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:32:38 ET - 2006/03/09
Seat 1: TAMPABAY_ACE (970)
Seat 2: beardy200 (65), is sitting out
Seat 3: HERO(3,660)
Seat 4: aaronjsimon (7,940)
Seat 5: PatrickO (8,110)
Seat 6: plopone (6,184)
Seat 7: Calc77 (4,200)
Seat 8: yab-yum (7,680)
Seat 9: JFrank (3,890)
aaronjsimon posts the small blind of 100
PatrickO posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Trips013 [2h 2c]
plopone folds
Calc77 folds
yab-yum folds
JFrank calls 200
TAMPABAY_ACE folds
beardy200 folds
HERO calls 200
aaronjsimon calls 100
PatrickO checks
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7d 2d]
aaronjsimon bets 500
PatrickO folds
JFrank calls 500
HERO ????

NHFunkii · #2 03-10-2006, 02:27 AM

raiiiiiiiise! I probably raise to 2k but a push is fine. Whichever you think has less fold equity.

Max Weinberg · #3 03-10-2006, 02:29 AM

If there was ever a flop for a slowplay, I think this is it.

EDIT: Oh I'm retarded, I misread the diamond draw.

wheatrich · #4 03-10-2006, 02:34 AM

Raising to 2k (with 1460 left behind) seems like that should be the worst play possible...

Here's how I play this hand in this spot.

A--push
B--call and push a non diamond turn

Works for me since I can also play a bunch of hands similarly.

slambert · #5 03-10-2006, 02:36 AM

even with two diamonds? im pushing this all day

Max Weinberg · #6 03-10-2006, 02:37 AM

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even with two diamonds? im pushing this all day

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Ignore me, I just edited my post a second ago. I missed the diamond draw, because I never learned to read...

slambert · #7 03-10-2006, 02:46 AM

ha- sorry bout that max...

its unfortunate that you barely have enough to push here and not give them odds to draw out for the flush, but its pretty much your only move.

NHFunkii · #8 03-10-2006, 02:57 AM

why is raising to 2k and leaving 1500 behind 'the worst play imaginable'?

basically, if you do that, you want them to call with flush draws (because they're not dumping them on the turn) and you want them to call with anything else too. Same thing with if you push. You just want to pick the one with the least fold equity, as I mentioned in my original post. Obviously you're not folding if you raise to 2k and a diamond hits.

gobboboy · #9 03-10-2006, 09:15 AM

Raise to 1400, shove any turn.

dmk · #10 03-10-2006, 11:09 AM

raise to 3459 and say "i might fold to a push"