2/5 live: easiest fold ever?

Tom1975 · #1 02-23-2006, 03:48 PM

2/5 live game, 10 handed. Villian #1($1200) seems like a solid TAG who knows what he's doing (his min-raise notwithstanding). Villian#2 ($480) is a LAGish donk who likes to splash around and play big pots. Hero covers.

Preflop:
Hero raises UTG+1 to $30 with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 1 call, Vill#1 calls, Vill#2 calls, everyone else folds.

Flop($120): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets $120, 1 fold, Vill#1 raises to $240, Vill#2 shoves for $450 total. Hero???

I think there's a good chance I'm ahead of Vill#2, but Vill#1's min-raise and the fact we're somewhat deep worry me. I think this is a clear cut fold, anyone disagree?

Cesaro · #2 02-23-2006, 03:50 PM

no, you said it yourself. this is a rediculously easy fold

highlife · #3 02-23-2006, 03:50 PM

easy fold. does anyone else bet less on this flop OOP? say $80-90.

Cesaro · #4 02-23-2006, 03:57 PM

I like to pot it there. It's a draw heavy board. Plus if you get raised after making that bet it just makes letting the hand go all that easier

TheWorstPlayer · #5 02-23-2006, 04:24 PM

If he has you beat, he will raise more to shut out donkadonk behind him. I push.

Tom1975 · #6 02-23-2006, 04:32 PM

I folded, Vill#1 called. Vill#1 had 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Vill#2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Turn and river were bricks and Vill#2 wins with Ace high.

Hattifnatt · #7 02-23-2006, 04:33 PM

Very easy fold.

JAA1337 · #8 02-23-2006, 04:35 PM

I would have folded, reloaded to max and enjoyed the ride at the table [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

TheWorstPlayer · #9 02-23-2006, 05:02 PM

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I folded, Vill#1 called. Vill#1 had 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Vill#2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Turn and river were bricks and Vill#2 wins with Ace high.

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Did you consider the fact that it makes no sense at all for a solid player to min-raise on such a draw heavy board with a chasing donk sitting behind him? Meh. Easy push. I'll gladly take JJ against the donkadonk with a nice overlay from the solid player already in the middle. No way you're behind solid player here.

Hattifnatt · #10 02-23-2006, 05:08 PM

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Flop($120): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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I folded, Vill#1 called. Vill#1 had 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Vill#2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Turn and river were bricks and Vill#2 wins with Ace high.

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Ask for a new deck or chase spade-draws and gutshots where you need a 7 more in future hands..