Question on raising/"one chip rule"

[NickMPK]

1/2 NL game:
First player raises to $6
Second player throws out two red ($5) chips without saying anything.

Is this a call or a raise to $10?

[thesilkworm]

As long as he puts them out together, that is a raise to $10.

[TMTTR]

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As long as he puts them out together, that is a raise to $10.

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Everywhere I have played, this is the wrong answer. Unless he says raise, this is a call.

[bav]

I vote for "call". The intent is ambiguous. A single $5 isn't enough to call so the player had to put out more than one to do the call. Since he said nothing, you go with the least aggressive choice. If he put out 3 $5's, it's a raise. Two $25's is a raise. Ten $1's is a raise. A $25 and a $5 is a raise. But two $5's is a call.

[thesilkworm]

I see your point. Ignore my answer OP.

[SellingtheDrama]

Sigh...just say what you are going to do. Look at the dealer and say two words...either "I call" or "I raise". It's not *that* hard [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[mrmr]

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I vote for "call". The intent is ambiguous. A single $5 isn't enough to call so the player had to put out more than one to do the call. Since he said nothing, you go with the least aggressive choice.

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To the best of my knowledge, none of the casinos I've played in would rule this way.

In general, any money you put in the middle is a bet or raise, with very few exceptions. One of those exceptions is if you put out a single chip worth more than the current bet to you (without saying raise). But put out two chips, and you're back into the "default" behavior of betting/raising to whatever amount you put out there.

Remember, calling your actions is optional. And while it is within the realm of possibility that many people would want to put out two chips worth more than the current bet and consider it a call, the line has to be drawn somewhere, and by and large it has been drawn: the "one chip rule." It's pretty standard.

[Javanewt]

I vote for call.

[ungarop]

On HSP, $300/600 blinds, a player throws out 2 $500 chips. Call?

I think this is a raise, for no other reason than the fact that everyone seems to think this is a call.

[jdeane]

I agree, it is a call.

The "One Chip" rule comes into play a lot at a home game I frequent. Some of these people can be a pain and will argue this point since it is not "One Chip".

Since $10 is a valid raise, and it was put out there, someone will argue it is a raise and not a call.

Can someone word this so when this comes up I can explain it to irrational people?