"25% of your action" and the high hand jackpot -- story + poll

[tyler_cracker]

A couple weeks ago, my poker buddy Slim gave me a call.

"Are you ready to rock Red Rock?" he asked. He is just dorky enough that he can get away with starting conversations in this way.

I was excited to go check out Red Rock, since those crafty Station peoples spent so much money building it, and since it sounds like the games are good. The only problem is that i've read that Red Rock only spreads 4/8, and i am not really rolled for 4/8 (i am broke and have had to take money out of my roll to pay bills on several occasions). In fact, i'm not even really rolled for 3/6, which has been my game for the last couple months. Also, i suck at poker.

"Well," Slim responded to my well-known-to-him tale of woe, "someone told me they do spread 2/4. But really, you should play 4/8, and i will take as much of your action as you like."

Slim is a giant wuss about a number of things that he needn't be a giant wuss about, but he makes up for this by being easy to talk into doing stuff. Like when we go skiing, and i say, "Hey, Slim, let's hit this rad little kicker. It's sweet and the landing is nice and soft". Then he says, "No, i'd better not..." and i know that he's remembering the time he broke himself hitting some huge jump a couple seasons ago. "Okay, well... wheeeee!" i shout, and hit the kicker, and then look uphill, where i see Slim mumble, "Dammit, tyler...", and then follow me and hit the jump and stick the landing and life is good.

"See? Told you!"

"Shut up, tyler."

Anyway, Slim has been hitting up Red Rock a lot this week. One day, he met up with another 2+2er who told Slim to quit wasting his time in the 1/2 game and step up to the 2/5. When Slim hesitated, this 2+2er offered to take half of Slim's action to get him into the more lucrative game. Of course, the experiment was a raging success, and Slim earned himself and his investor a tidy sum.

Knowing all this, i consider Slim's offer and decide that if i sell Slim 25% of my action, it's just like i'm playing 3/6, only the rake is relatively less. This arrangement also takes some of the sting out of the swings of 4/8. We play a few sessions this way, and it seems a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Fast forward to tonight. We are playing at the Gold Coast (because that's how we roll, bitches). I am playing 4/8, and Slim is taking 25% of my action. I open with TT in EP, get 4 cold-callers plus the BB (yes, this table rules). Flop is ATT, 2 opponents call all the way to the river, and i scoop a big pot plus a high hand bonus for quad tens.

I walk over to Slim, who is playing 2/4 with his gf. The gf is sweet-talking the rock to her right: "We have a lot of good players at this table. I don't like having to sit in between two good players. I'm not any good at this game." It is awesome to behold.

"So, Slim, how does our arrangement work for high hand jackpots?"

"Um... huh. I have no idea. That seems like something we should have figured out before."

We agree that the most sensible thing to do is to ask the B&M Forum its opinion. And here we are. With a poll!

(Note that Slim and i are good friends who trust one another, so there was no need for us to have any kind of technical, letter-of-the-law contract to forge our arrangement. And no matter what you crazy bastards tell us, there is no doubt that we will reach an amicable agreement about this particular issue. Still, it's always good to get an outside opinion or three, plus some random trolls, thread hijacks (WHY ARE YOU PLAYING AT GOLD COAST I HEAR THEY USE THE RAKE TO BUY BABIES ON THE BLACK MARKET ALSO THE WAITRESSES ARE UGLY), an "lol" from photoc, and someone asking where they should go in Vegas to play low-limit texas hold them.)

[stinkypete]

slim is paying the rake that feeds the high hand jackpot. 25% of it is his.

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[TMTTR]

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[Scottery]

25% of the bets you made during the hand effectively came from your bud so he should be given his share.. how much was high hand bonus anyway?

[KreellKeiser]

You never would have been dealt the quad tens at 4/8 if Slim hadn't made the deal with you. I say give him 25% of the jackpot.

[Dozer64]

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I agree.

Karma will kick your azz if you don't.

[rageotones]

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[neuroman]

I voted for "work out a compromise" but if the high hand jackpot was small (less than $1000) then 25% is probably best.

Much more problematic would be a bad beat jackpot on the order of thousands of dollars. Then I think you'd have to ask the question, would you have been at the casino anyways playing a lower limit (but still bad-beat raked) game? Eg, if you would have been there playing 3/6 instead of being staked 25% for 6/12... should your staker still get 25%? Maybe I'm just thinking greedy.

[JackOfSpeed]

25%.