**Offical uNL Microbrew thread: December (nc)** - Page 96

Check_The_Nuts · #**951** 12-18-2006, 11:47 AM

Hummm....won a 80BB pot with AK unimproved yesterday. This hand kinda freaked me out, I wish I was on tilt. Hopefully I won't feel like this is a good idea in the future.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($37.30)
MP ($34.40)
CO ($25)
Button ($63.20)
SB ($31.95)
Hero ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.5, MP calls $1.25, SB folds.

Flop: ($3.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP calls $5.

 This bet is too small, just noticed! 

River: ($18.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $12.75, Hero raises to $16, MP folds.

I can't put him on anything but air. If he bet a medium/small pocket pair, he'd either value bluff/push, or bet half pot hoping for a call from AK (me!). If he had a big pair he'd raise preflop, or raise the flop/turn. That awkward bet on a bad card for 99% of my holdings doesn't make any sense. Bet>check raise here obviously, but I was planning on giving up.

Final Pot: $47

and finally, I got one! ROYAL FLUSH! (Probably 65k hands liftetime)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($15.05)
SB ($12.40)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($14.40)
MP ($14.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.5, Hero calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, UTG folds, SB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero raises to $18, SB calls $0.90 (All-In).

River: ($33.40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $33.40

Results in white below:
SB has 9d 6h (straight, queen high).
Hero has Kh Ah (straight flush, ace high). ROYAL 
Outcome: Hero wins $33.40.

Imrahil · #**952** 12-18-2006, 01:40 PM

This is the stuff I have to resort to these days to try and make $$. I never flop anything anymore and I don't flop sets.

xpert bluff by me. I wish if some people would fold overpairs.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($45.50)
SB ($102)
BB ($50)
UTG ($49.75)
MP ($52.50)
CO ($12.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $3.5, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

River: ($25.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $33 (All-In), MP calls $33.

Final Pot: $91.75

Results in white below: 
MP has Ks Kh (two pair, kings and sixes).
Hero has Tc Th (two pair, tens and sixes).
Outcome: MP wins $91.75.

tehDiceman · #**953** 12-18-2006, 03:36 PM

so im having an issue with my play, if i play weak on anything but flat out nasty holdings, i win money, if i try to draw to big straights or showdown with two top pairs or the like, i start losing big money either because im betting with what i think is the best hand, or because i am calling bets that have more than a few people in the pot and end up with a larger pot.

so, what am i supposed to do? playing weak is not going to help when i move up, but unless i play weak and beat the crap out of 10-A straights, big flushes, and boats, i lose money constantly. thoughts?

sputum · #**954** 12-18-2006, 04:29 PM

Beat the game you're playing, get the roll to move up and remember you may have to adjust. That may cost you a little to start with but if you're confident of beating the lower level consistently you can always go back down and get more $$$.
If you are calling your winning play 'weak' and your losing play 'not weak' more detail may be needed for more specific advice [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

optimus_prime · #**955** 12-18-2006, 05:36 PM

I will be a regular at 50 NL by January, despite missing out on free coaching recently offered. That is all.

thac · #**956** 12-18-2006, 06:47 PM

Ugh, I'm staying down at nl25 until the end of January. Every time I move up I run/play like dogshit. That's all. :P

michaelantoi · #**957** 12-18-2006, 06:50 PM

i'm gonna want atleast 30 buy-ins before moving up to NL50

tehDiceman · #**958** 12-18-2006, 07:00 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Beat the game you're playing, get the roll to move up and remember you may have to adjust. That may cost you a little to start with but if you're confident of beating the lower level consistently you can always go back down and get more $$$.
If you are calling your winning play 'weak' and your losing play 'not weak' more detail may be needed for more specific advice [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

i suppose what im saying is that to this forum or big time players, i fold relatively big draws and the like to reraises and pushes when i have the odds or when it would be +EV, etc.

part of the problem is that i dont have enough experience yet with only about 18k hands under my belt. from some of the comments on some of my hand posts, i play a weak tight game. anytime i try to play a little stronger, i start losing chips like there is a hole in my pocket.

my total aggression on 8k hands at 5NL is only 2ish which i think is low. i find myself checking top pair weak kicker from the blinds or when there are a ton of people in a limped pot. that might or might not be the right play, but i go weak tight because my BR still sucks hard and any real variance hurts, hence the "safe approach" to the game.

danny8 · #**959** 12-18-2006, 07:11 PM

i see a decent 100nl table so decide to take another shot...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $107.55
UTG+1: $225.10
CO: $26.20
Button: $112
SB: $72.05
BB: $126.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($11, 3 players)
BB bets $8, Hero raises to $26, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($63, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($143, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero is all-in $38.05, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $219.1
Hero showed Qc Qd
BB mucks Qh Ac

alls going well at the 100nl table, then i manage to make the most retarded river raise ever at 50nl!

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $62.30
UTG+1: $26.15
Hero: $56.60
Button: $72.30
SB: $50.55
BB: $54.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button raises to $6, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.5, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($27.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6.5, Hero raises to $25.5, Button raises all-in $59.05, Hero calls all-in $17.85.
Uncalled bets: $15.7 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $113.95
Button showed Kc Jc
Hero mucks Td Th

god i hate it when i dont think about stuff and make stupid mistakes [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

jonyy6788 · #**960** 12-18-2006, 07:38 PM

That whole hand was horrible...reraise him on the flop or fold IMO.