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Old 08-08-2006, 11:01 PM
Solitare Solitare is offline
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- The list.

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I thought the list was from the ToC.

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Nope, he made it for the ME.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:02 PM
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The highest federal tax bracket is 35%.

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Don't forget that our tax brackets are incremental. Event the highest income earners pay less than the highest bracket on the first dollars they earn:

Income
Over Under Tax Plus % Over
$0 $7,300 $0.00 10% $0
7,300 29,700 730.00 15% 7,300
29,700 71,950 4,090.00 25% 29,700
71,950 150,150 14,652.50 28% 71,950
150,150 326,450 36,548.50 33% 150,150
326,450 94,727.50 35% 326,450

I am sure that will look like crap, but on a million, you would pay $94,727.50 + 35% of everything over $326,450. Not counting deductions, credits, etc.

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:04 PM
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I find it odd that the dinner break is only 90 minutes long. It kinda seems that once you've got people playing for millions and millions, they should be able to get a mighty meal, not shuffle over to the noodle bar and hustle back.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:05 PM
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The highest federal tax bracket is 35%.

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Don't forget that our tax brackets are incremental. Event the highest income earners pay less than the highest bracket on the first dollars they earn:

Income
Over Under Tax Plus % Over
$0 $7,300 $0.00 10% $0
7,300 29,700 730.00 15% 7,300
29,700 71,950 4,090.00 25% 29,700
71,950 150,150 14,652.50 28% 71,950
150,150 326,450 36,548.50 33% 150,150
326,450 94,727.50 35% 326,450

I am sure that will look like crap, but on a million, you would pay $94,727.50 + 35% of everything over $326,450. Not counting deductions, credits, etc.

NCACes

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No, I didn't forget, but you had said 35-45%, so I was pointing out that it never gets above 35%.

You can't really calculate the exact figure because it depends on the player's other income for the year. If this is the only money he makes all year, then yeah, it's calculated as you said.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:05 PM
Quicksilvre Quicksilvre is offline
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For exactly $1 million, that's $330,470, not including state taxes. For every extra dollar, you'll owe an additional 35 cents.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:05 PM
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No Dannenman got attention before ESPN and way before the final four. Along with the card protector he had:

- His "Isn't this great" attitude.
- The list.
- The story that he was only the 4th best at his home game.
- His home game friend backing him 50%
- And the big one, that didn't make ESPN, was that Dannenman got short stacked at one point, started ordering cocktails midday, and quickly proceeded to go on a massive tear. He'd win a big hand, yell out "cocktails", order up another one, and his whole table was on tilt.

All this made Cardplayer, this board, and numerous newspaper articles (he was essentially the everyman cover boy for local print coverage) before he was on ESPN or the final table.

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You forgot the bluff of Lederer at the bubble, then he calls his friend to tell him about it.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:06 PM
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Good Lord - just got back and saw the chip updates. Is this going to be one boring final table or what? I'm looking ofrward to seeing Alan in action, but that monster stack - yikes

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Meh, compared to last year I'd say this is an amazing FT. When there were like 12 left we had Matusow, Andrew Black in Jamie Gold's role as character with massive chipstack, and brad kondracki as the 2p2er (though many did not know Kondracki was a trout). Everyone else was like meh. Nobody had even heard of Hachem, and Dannenman only got some coverage because of his donk card protector. As it got down to 3 and 4 handed, thats when the focus started shifting to them.


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No Dannenman got attention before ESPN and way before the final four. Along with the card protector he had:

- His "Isn't this great" attitude.
- The list.
- The story that he was only the 4th best at his home game.
- His home game friend backing him 50%
- And the big one, that didn't make ESPN, was that Dannenman got short stacked at one point, started ordering cocktails midday, and quickly proceeded to go on a massive tear. He'd win a big hand, yell out "cocktails", order up another one, and his whole table was on tilt.

All this made Cardplayer, this board, and numerous newspaper articles (he was essentially the everyman cover boy for local print coverage) before he was on ESPN or the final table.

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You are being results oriented ... none of that made it anywhere until ESPN televised it, IIRC. They may have caught the same type of things this year, although if you think about it, how lucky was it for them to catch Steve D on the phone with his backer bragging about taking a hand off the Professor. In a field of 6800, what's the chance of that person going to the FT and finishing 2nd.

But, they will have all sorts of these types of stories. That is what their folks get paid for.

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:08 PM
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Can you deduct cash game losses against tourney winnings? If that is the case, Hellmuth would never have to pay taxes!!

(Assuming no other income which of course is not true)
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:08 PM
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The 10-1 rule is in HoH2, I believe.

Basically he says something about how if you have a chance to eliminate an opponent and it's less than 1/10th of your chips to call (or something like that)

The example he gave he called some guy with J3o or something

[/ QUOTE ]This is not right, though I've seen people say this a lot. He says to put someone all in with any two cards if it's less that 1/10th of your stack. Calling is different.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:08 PM
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ty NCAces for saving me the typing time =)

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