ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs

[William]

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And you are abusing your power by doing what you did.

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So labeling a cheater as a cheater is somehow an abuse of power? Yeah OK....

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Ok and how about next he starts labeling bad players as "donkeys". Is that okay too?

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I have a few suggestions for the donkey title...

[adanthar]

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I am 100% certain that Curtains has NEVER in his entire life used two accounts to play on the same table.

Now that you can 10 table on party I don't know of a single legitimate player that uses multiple accounts.

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Does this mean you knew of players that did before 10 tabling was allowed?

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Every single player in the SNG forum (edit: and most people in the limit forums for that matter) has/had multiple accounts, one on Party (where no one had rakeback) and one on one/some/most of the old skins (where everyone had rakeback). You couldn't sit at the same table with any of them so there was never a problem with cheating, people just didn't want to stop at 4 tables.

Once the skins weren't tied to Party anymore, everyone stopped using them and that was that.

This has nothing to do with cheating, ZJ or curtains for that matter.

[Bud Light]

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Anyone know who Curtains is???


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He's a poster on STT forums. Bunch of multi-accounters over there. I have been working hard all morning at reporting them.



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you're a goddam retard. i have several hundred HH's before the new party release on Curtains while observing, to review to help my own game/inputing info into SNGPT and to PM him for reasons for his play in particular instances. in NONE of them have i noticed anyhting odd or strange.

you need to come off your goddam pedestal.

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If Curtains doesn't have multiple accounts, he has nothing to worry about. BTW, I'm sure that many of the people on that private forum think I'm a retard and thus have no qualms about cheating me out of money. That seems to be a prevalent attitude around here.

[betadecay]

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He is a good guy, he just doesn't realize that this is cheating.

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This is dumb. ZJ is not an idiot. He understood it was wrong and even got advice on how to proceed with it. Criminals are always looking for a way to rationlize why what they are doing is ok. That is why they are criminals. It's the people that don't look for cop outs that are not. He cheated. He knew he was cheating. Hopefully he learns from this fiasco.

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Interesting....saw this thread in Bad Beats, etc forum. Guy knows of a high profile player on PS playing 6 accounts at once and he is not going to report it

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=2&vc=1

[bobbyi]

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2+2 forums are independent of what happens on poker sites or in the outside world... That's common sense.

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It's "common sense" that when we post here we enter some existential vacuum and forget everything we know about the outside world?

[beset]

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2+2 forums are independent of what happens on poker sites or in the outside world... That's common sense.

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It's "common sense" that when we post here we enter some existential vacuum and forget everything we know about the outside world?

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Yeah and apparently we should be very kind and empathetic toward known cheaters who have these forums to thank for much of their prestige.

[surfinillini]

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Why didn't you just sit out when you were placed on the same table? You opened a bunch of SNG's to negate your advantage? Let me ask you this, UTG you get KQs and on the Button you have AA. How did you play these cards?


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He was saying that as there were so many screens open, he couldn't tell that the KQs and the AA were in the same $100,000 tournament, on the same table.


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Ohhh, I thought he just moved all-in into himself and then analyzed both of his own plays

[mikechops]

Let's keep this in proportion.

I've read ZJ's and I can easily believe that the reason he used 6 accounts was because only playing 1 account in an MTT is kind of dull when you are used to multi-tabling. Yes it would give him an unfair advantage if two of his accounts ended up at the same table, but I don't believe this was his main purpose in using multiple accounts. I don't believe that it happens very frequently in a tournament and I don't believe when it does happen that the advantage is huge.

To me, this makes it a 2nd degree offense. It is not acceptable and he deserves to have any money he won in MTTs where he did this and redistributed amongst the other players.

However, if I had been dumb enough to do and get caught pulling something like this when I was 19 (I prolly was), what would hurt me most would be the reaction of almost everybody here. Again I don't believe his primary intention was to gain an small advantage. I don't know the kid, but I think it is sad how a lot of haters are jumping on this as if he had dealt from the bottom of the deck.

[Jehaim]

ZeeJustin's blog on 20th Feb: "And man do I hate Party."

They didn't like that. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]